> Ransomnote: We can’t have our own realities and live by our own personal separate realities, although the Dems have tried to do that since Trump won in 2016.
No but we should at least make a good faith effort to empathize with those who think differently from us (if we are to avoid solutions involving violence).
> We can’t determine the outcome of an election based on preferred beliefs. Courts, evidence and testimony are needed to prove which camp has sufficient evidence to prove their position (Trump, because he won about 3 out of every 4 votes, and his vote count matches observed reality leading up to Election day).
The ballots are contested and the ballot process was not followed. The tab processing was not followed. I could argue that we are partially to blame because we collectively did not exert enough effort to guarantee fair elections in the past when the problems could have been nipped in the bud. I am addressing the current situation to minimize violence. The election leaves us all in an unstable state. There is a lack of accountability which goes back to process problems. Counts, recounts, audits, and statistical arguments won’t realistically resolve all of those problems, in or out of court, to the level of certainty required of acceptance by both parties. That is an empathetic viewpoint. We need however to be able to imagine ourselves in the places of our fellow citizens who honestly voted for biden and give them every benefit of considering all of their legitimate arguments and concerns. If both sides are honest they might be able to agree that an accurate vote count is fairly impossible now. Start from there and find a peaceful resolution that is fair to the main bodies of both parties (if not to all candidates).
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Why are you employing the MSM/Left tactic of purposefully ignoring videos, witness testimony, collected evidence, analysis including support documents re Dominion software, expert testimony, etc. All that and you want to limit this discussion to missing envelopes?
I am not ignoring them. they attest to the uncertainty of the tabulation to a lesser or larger degree. collectively, to a degree that the true vote cannot be rationally argued due to lack of logs, procedures, spoilages, etc. Yes that was by design but no, the average democrats were victimized too. yes, a small cadre of them were dishonest but many (most likely a vast majority) were deceived and cheated also. they were cheated because someone tipped the scales in their favor. in a fair world, one which we must always strive to construct and maintain, tipping the scales cheats all sides— fundamentally immoral to any honest person, who if honest must reject any ill gotten gains.
> Ransomnote
No. We can just reference mountains of objective evidence gathered from many, many different sources and types.
yes, the evidence points to cheating. but logically many of the tracks are covered. logs were not kept or deleted. without logs, full data recovery is not possible. without full data recovery, we simply won’t be able to know with absolute certainty the final count or in many cases the final winner. we could in some cases extrapolate from statistics. however, elections are not really intended from the beginning to be determined statistically. they are designed to be determined absolutely from the initial vote through the process to the final absolute tallies. we need what we don’t have, and which we can never get, although we were supposed to get. period. shouting louder does not change the math which is in the absolute rendered inconclusive.
> Ransomnote
Only China and the MSM really are invested in falsely portraying Biden the winner and that’s because the MSM is falsely claiming the right to ‘call’ the winner. 3/4 of voters did not vote for Biden.
see above. adversarial third parties are hovering, yes. but we need to resolve this peacefully if possible with each other and keep the adversarial third parties away.
> Trump won’t concede an election in a race he won with overwhelming majority and he won’t concede our country to traitors who will kill/enslave us.
I personally don’t know what trump will do but my best guess as i mentioned in a previous response is that he will do whatever he can to try to find a peaceful solution, even at sacrifice to his own person. Many great politicians of the past have sought peaceful solutions in a similar manner and made similar great personal sacrifices for the greater good.
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Biden stole the election - he bragged about stealing the election. Biden doesn’t “do” fair play - he’s actively undermining the will of the overwhelming majority.
He might have bragged once. Some initially claimed he was suffering from dementia. I usually give someone a break unless they are repeat offenders. So it’s disputed as to whether biden misspoke or confessed from my POV. Further evidence may be brought to bear that might sway me. people do occasionally misspeak. And it can happen at the worst times.
> Biden is trying to hand AMerica to China (coup). China owns the Biden family and would never allow its puppets do engage in fair play. This is war.
> This is war and you don’t know it or are choosing not to admit it. You then suggest we submit to those who want to kill us, but do so in the name of ‘fair play’.
Those are serious allegations against biden. If true he deserves his day in court. We still have the principle of innocence until proven guilty, as uncomfortable as this may lead us to be under trying circumstances such as these. I might agree or not with you, but my beliefs do not matter since it has not yet been adjudicated in a court of law.
> There’s no pointing my responding to the rest of your bizarre post.
Sorry you feel that way.
Harris got chosen because she is a true Ditzhead and was seen as one who would be most easily manipulated when Biden gets eased out of power.
Forget about just protesting the figureheads; their handlers need to be found, targeted and brought out into the light...one way or the other.
As for Empathy....arguing over how best to help the poor is one thing...but agreeing with the homosexual agenda, the abortion on demand acolytes, the tolerance based civil religion being foisted upon us(Which is Masonically or Illuminati inspired) that has no Christ in it are not to be empathized with. Democrats are in a way like Islamists(especially Islamic males)...they advocate policies that actually appeal to our base desires...greed, lust, pride, blood lust and murder while stoking a fear of death and the grave.
A population well salted by Christ will influence even the ungodly to behave more moderately and the country as a whole can resist amorality and those who would manipulate and rule by fear.
In our case, the Evil Progs sense the ABSENSE of Christ’s blood in our spiritual water and our population’s rising fear of death and the grave. Thus we are open to attack and slavery....the pattern seen over and over again in the book of Judges. First infighting and chaos over the loss of consensus, then attacks and attempted subjugation even by the lesser nations. The world wishes to make of Americans collectively into their blind, hair shorn Sampson at work at the Elites’ grist mills....having no hope, no vision beyond the endless turning of their mills.
Time to let our hair grow back and to allow Christ to fill our blinded eyes with new vision!
You don't understand the basic nature of war - they ignore empathy and kill us. That's how war works.
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Why are you employing the MSM/Left tactic of purposefully ignoring videos, witness testimony, collected evidence, analysis including support documents re Dominion software, expert testimony, etc. All that and you want to limit this discussion to missing envelopes?
I am not ignoring them. they attest to the uncertainty of the tabulation to a lesser or larger degree. collectively, to a degree that the true vote cannot be rationally argued due to lack of logs, procedures, spoilages, etc. Yes that was by design but no, the average democrats were victimized too. yes, a small cadre of them were dishonest but many (most likely a vast majority) were deceived and cheated also. they were cheated because someone tipped the scales in their favor. in a fair world, one which we must always strive to construct and maintain, tipping the scales cheats all sides— fundamentally immoral to any honest person, who if honest must reject any ill gotten gains.
So you're FR's Tokyo Rose? Still pretending portions of the ongoing coup are an issue of fairness - still trying to smother the natural desire among Americans to resist coup as they should.
Your creepy manipulative writing is like Ayman Zawahiri after 9/11 urging Americans, "Yes. Yes this is a matter for the courts". He didn't want Americans to even realize a foreign nation was attacking us and tried to diminish it to a police matter.
You won't succeed in convincing many that we just have to view China's ongoing coup attempt as a social disagreement best settled by deference.
NO COMPROMISE. NO DEFERENCE. WE ARE UNDER ATTACK.
Our enemies will kill and enslave us.
yes, the evidence points to cheating. but logically many of the tracks are covered. logs were not kept or deleted. without logs, full data recovery is not possible. without full data recovery, we simply won’t be able to know with absolute certainty the final count or in many cases the final winner. we could in some cases extrapolate from statistics. however, elections are not really intended from the beginning to be determined statistically. they are designed to be determined absolutely from the initial vote through the process to the final absolute tallies. we need what we don’t have, and which we can never get, although we were supposed to get. period. shouting louder does not change the math which is in the absolute rendered inconclusive.
You are lying to convince readers that there is something vague about the obvious epic levels of election theft by repeatedly, purposefully ignoring the ample mountain of evidence and picking away at the margins. WHY?
> Ransomnote
Only China and the MSM really are invested in falsely portraying Biden the winner and that’s because the MSM is falsely claiming the right to ‘call’ the winner. 3/4 of voters did not vote for Biden.
see above. adversarial third parties are hovering, yes. but we need to resolve this peacefully if possible with each other and keep the adversarial third parties away.
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See above. WE.ARE.AT.WAR.
I personally don’t know what trump will do but my best guess as i mentioned in a previous response is that he will do whatever he can to try to find a peaceful solution, even at sacrifice to his own person. Many great politicians of the past have sought peaceful solutions in a similar manner and made similar great personal sacrifices for the greater good.
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Know this. President Trump will never concede because it means China would control and destroy America. You don't have to believe me - you can just listen to President Trump. He is filling in the details I have been relaying to you in public addresses lately.
He might have bragged once. Some initially claimed he was suffering from dementia. I usually give someone a break unless they are repeat offenders. So it’s disputed as to whether biden misspoke or confessed from my POV. Further evidence may be brought to bear that might sway me. people do occasionally misspeak. And it can happen at the worst times.
And that's why pencils have erasers? He didn't forget what town he was campaigning in. He bragged about election theft just like he bragged about extorting the Ukraine. Our enemies are openly talking about their tactics to overthrow countries (lately, ours) and you want to pretend he "misspoke".
> This is war and you don’t know it or are choosing not to admit it. You then suggest we submit to those who want to kill us, but do so in the name of ‘fair play’.
Those are serious allegations against biden. If true he deserves his day in court. We still have the principle of innocence until proven guilty, as uncomfortable as this may lead us to be under trying circumstances such as these. I might agree or not with you, but my beliefs do not matter since it has not yet been adjudicated in a court of law.
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There it is again - you are employing a Deep State tactic to undermine America's will to defend herself while under attack. WE don't have to wait for Biden's day in court before we resist being overthrown and killed.
> There’s no pointing my responding to the rest of your bizarre post.
Sorry you feel that way.
No you aren't. And besides, you've changed my mind. If you're going to try to rot the will to survive from people reading FR, I have to focus more on the trash you write.