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To: Be Careful
states with large immigrant populations could lose political power,

Who writes this slop?
It's against the law for illegal immigrants to vote. They are not supposed to have political power. Period. Legal immigrants are already counted in the census so what is the problem here?

2 posted on 12/01/2020 2:27:13 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Well stated. My first thought as well.


3 posted on 12/01/2020 2:34:00 AM PST by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: SmokingJoe

Re: “What is the problem?”

From memory - the exact language in the Constitution is that the Census must count “all persons present” in each state.

From memory - Trump originally attempted to get a separate count for illegals, and one or more federal courts forbade that question.

As far as counting illegal aliens for the purpose of representation, I do not think that exact issue has ever been litigated.


5 posted on 12/01/2020 2:45:26 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: SmokingJoe

It’s not about voting. It’s about proportioning congressional representation based on number of persons, versus number of illegal persons. In Calif for instance, not counting illegals would result in Calif losing 3 congressional seats. The same likely for NY.


8 posted on 12/01/2020 3:14:18 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: SmokingJoe

I honestly don’t, and never have understood why this is even an argument.

If someone wants to argue that the status of illegals should be changed, that is their fantasy, have at it if they have nothing better to do, though it fans the contempt of any true American for them.

Illegal. Illegal. Illegal. What is it that they don’t understand?

Of course people here illegally should not have any say, none, no matter how small, in the affairs of this country.

It is astonishing and disheartening to me that this is even a court case.


12 posted on 12/01/2020 4:20:20 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: SmokingJoe

The problem is the term “persons” in the Constitutional requirement for apportionment.

Any originalist ruling in this question would be 9-0 against Trump’s position, and since Biden’s inauguration will make the case moot, I’m sure the Court would rather stay out of it.


14 posted on 12/01/2020 4:30:19 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: SmokingJoe

As always, the founders although good, were lazy and sloppy with their writings. It doesn’t say a thing about voting in the census. It says count heads basically....the founders were never specific on hardly anything. If they really cared, they should have wrote count all citizens. I wish they would have had some foresight on many things like birthright citizenship and some stronger immigration language. Also, English as the official language would have been nice.


15 posted on 12/01/2020 4:37:33 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: SmokingJoe

LOL! The problem is, the larger the “legit” population, the more electoral votes they get.


18 posted on 12/01/2020 4:52:31 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: SmokingJoe

Who writes this slop?
It’s against the law for illegal immigrants to vote. They are not supposed to have political power. Period. Legal immigrants are already counted in the census so what is the problem here?


Yep. It would be like claiming that in 1940 German soldiers should be counted in the French census.


19 posted on 12/01/2020 4:57:19 AM PST by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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