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To: redheadedshannon
It’s wierd- I’m as much of a Trump voter & defender as any of them- but I don’t have my head up Trumps butt & I don’t see him as a last hope. His issues were great, his fighting spirit & patriotism were amazing. But he had flaws & downsides too.

I love Trump. I voted for him twice. He's the only politician I ever sent money to. I wanted him to win.

Was there vote fraud? Undoubtedly. Did it cost him the election? I don't know. But I do know that he lost votes from people who couldn't name a single policy of his that they disagree with, they just grew tired of the tweets and thought that Biden would make things normal again. These people don't post on Free Republic but they're out there. I know this because I serve in the military with them and they've said as much.

I've never thought FR should be an echo chamber. I've been here nearly twenty years and people are still telling me to go back to DU and calling me a #NeverTrumper because I'm not smoking the hopium over this Kraken stuff. I'm still going to post here though and I hope you do the same, and I'll continue to do so until Jim himself says otherwise.

40 posted on 11/22/2020 1:47:01 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Agreed! I’m 44 & I’ve been on here for 20 years as well. We need a little more realism than the Kraken, Qanon, Gateway Pundit stuff. I’d love if all of their theories were true, but I’m not going to sit around & depend on it. I believe there’s some amount of fraud occurring, but I’ve also known from the beginning that if evidence is not utterly overwhelming & apparent, then it won’t go anywhere. The media won’t prove it. You can’t depend on mainstream politicians to argue your case. You have to have an amazingly good & respected legal team, statisticians, fact finders & reputable types. The deck is stacked against you from the get go. This is why election security & as many barriers to fraud need to be championed & implemented at every level of government as possible BEFORE the election. Some of the blame for not doing that has to be borne by Trump, Republicans & our own voters for not demanding it & making sure that it was set in place before the election. I realize that Democrats use the courts to achieve their end goals. But I go into every election assuming that. My bigger question is: why have we not championed limits & laws on the judiciarys ability to do that in the first place. If a political party is gaming the governmental system then it becomes the responsibility of the opposition party & her voters to attempt to right that wrong. If we don’t, we cannot sit around & whine about it 😉


42 posted on 11/22/2020 2:51:36 PM PST by redheadedshannon
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