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To: Heartlander
FYI, we’ve already danced this dance…

I had forgotten that thread but in you said you believe everything in the universe is designed (had a designer).

From this article:

"Not only were their arguments compelling enough to be published in a major scientific journal, it challenges the long-held assumptions that design cannot be tested using scientific methods."

This is what I have a problem with. If everything's designed how can you test for design scientifically?

Any differences we find between natural objects can't be due to the presence or absence of design because every natural object and process is designed.

You post this article arguing for a scientific test yet following your logic such a test isn't possible in our universe.

42 posted on 10/28/2020 1:17:51 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
Intelligent design refers to a scientific research program as well as a community of scientists, philosophers and other scholars who seek evidence of design in nature. The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection. Through the study and analysis of a system’s components, a design theorist is able to determine whether various natural structures are the product of chance, natural law, intelligent design, or some combination thereof. Such research is conducted by observing the types of information produced when intelligent agents act. Scientists then seek to find objects which have those same types of informational properties which we commonly know come from intelligence. Intelligent design has applied these scientific methods to detect design in irreducibly complex biological structures, the complex and specified information content in DNA, the life-sustaining physical architecture of the universe, and the geologically rapid origin of biological diversity in the fossil record during the Cambrian explosion approximately 530 million years ago.

Again, from a scientific standpoint, SETI and forensic science use design detection – along with other branches of science. We use design detection all the time – should not really a hard concept to grasp…

43 posted on 10/28/2020 1:55:27 PM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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