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Software developers might be obsolete by 2030
Towards Data Science ^ | 10/19/2020 | Rhea Moutafis

Posted on 10/19/2020 8:49:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/19/2020 8:49:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No machine can do my job until it learns how to drink.


2 posted on 10/19/2020 8:56:11 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: SeekAndFind

yes and no.

Programming was and is a skill and an art but, like industrialization, we’ve distilled a lot of it down to rote techniques which can be automated and auto-coded by machine or quickly assembled by unskilled staff.

Like everything else that doesn’t completely eliminate the need for the actual, skilled, software engineer but those jobs will be harder to come by.


3 posted on 10/19/2020 8:57:10 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: SeekAndFind

Seriously, most of what I write is designed to be automated or part of automation. But there seems to be a never ending stream of things to automate.


4 posted on 10/19/2020 8:58:23 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We can all be cops.


5 posted on 10/19/2020 8:59:16 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Software developers might be obsolete by 2030

Yeah sure. And machine trading will be making money for people playing the stock market.

6 posted on 10/19/2020 9:03:17 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: SeekAndFind

Might, maybe, could be, if, granted, theorized, prognosticated, possibly, perhaps, conceivably, perchance, credibly, feasibly, .......Not a chance...


7 posted on 10/19/2020 9:03:22 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Skywise

Problem is only idiotic brainless Indian “programmers” who just copy-paste code are the ones getting hired at present. Seems decent American programmers are stuck in the computer games industry or stuck
unemployed. Even here, if you don’t have a few AAA titles currently under your belt, you won’t get an interview. This is the only niche where Indian by-rote copy-pasting isn’t useful.


8 posted on 10/19/2020 9:04:15 PM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: SeekAndFind
If more and more machines can write code for themselves, what do we need humans for?

To write the code for the machines that write the code.

My degree in Computer Science is from 1980 - 40 years ago. And 40 years before that, in 1940, there was pretty much no such thing as a computer. Hmmm.

9 posted on 10/19/2020 9:04:56 PM PDT by libertylover (Election 2020: Make America Great Again or Burn it to the Ground. Choose one.)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


10 posted on 10/19/2020 9:17:27 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: SeekAndFind
Software developers might be obsolete by [insert year]

This is being said since the 1970s. The newest fad/hype is no code/low code.

11 posted on 10/19/2020 9:18:06 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Skywise
"we’ve distilled a lot of it down to rote techniques which can be automated and auto-coded by machine or quickly assembled"


2 of the most important languages.. (plus binary)..

I need to go back and refresh my skills on those, plus Fortran/Cobol/Watfiv/etc...
I read that they are in demand..
12 posted on 10/19/2020 9:22:36 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: SeekAndFind

Salary scales indicate they have been obsolete since about 2002.


13 posted on 10/19/2020 9:25:26 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Starcitizen

Starcitizen eh? Check out embedded systems programming (consumer electronics, that sort of thing) that’s where i shifted after my stint in games programming. You have the same people attempting to get jobs there but they fail miserably.
That got parlayed into cloud programming is a similar issue - they can copy and paste the java and python - but they don’t understand how the cloud pieces fit together or how to do it cheaply and efficiently.


14 posted on 10/19/2020 9:29:56 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: SeekAndFind

Some programming will move to higher levels of abstraction. Humans will still provide the creativity and big picture designs, but automated systems will fill in the blanks. This will grow out of model based systems engineering. But there will always have to be low level systems coders. OS and driver builders. Or programmers in domains that are so specialized and or small-market that it isn’t cost effective to automate.


15 posted on 10/19/2020 9:36:56 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps
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To: Steely Tom

“Yeah sure. And machine trading will be making money for people playing the stock market.”

It already has!


16 posted on 10/19/2020 9:38:14 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Skywise

Know my way around GCP, AWS, and Azure. I can write decent micro-services. Last project was a MLB reply service used to rewind and replay games in offseason for developer support. Got a commendation from The Commissioner of Baseball for it just 2 months before the season shut in March due to the WuFlu and my team’s furlough.

Fail miserably when given whiteboard 30-minute coding tests taken from some Indian CS textbook given by some Indian H1B technical or engineering manager. Most of it is miscommunication as can’t understand their accent. So I stick to games development for now.


17 posted on 10/19/2020 9:38:43 PM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: TexasGator

Yeah, like at Long Term Capital.

But hey, knock yourself out.


18 posted on 10/19/2020 9:39:45 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Steely Tom

“Yeah, like at Long Term Capital.

But hey, knock yourself out.”

I have no idea what your point is.


19 posted on 10/19/2020 9:42:07 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: libh8er
> The newest fad/hype is no code/low code.

Methinks the last time the MBAs pushed their wet dream of eliminating software developers (that is before the currently waning fad of "offshoring" ) it was called "4GL development".

20 posted on 10/19/2020 9:42:49 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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