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The 'long-haulers': Why 'presumed recovered' doesn't mean you're done with the coronavirus
Times Picayune ^ | 10/17/2020 | Emily Woodruff

Posted on 10/17/2020 9:30:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

So, it turns out the Wuhan virus behaves like any other virus. I had “Glandular Fever” as a teenager and fifty years on the effects are still with me.


21 posted on 10/18/2020 12:57:28 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: dp0622

I have a friend who had a horrible case of food poisoning 2 months ago. His stomach still isn’t the same and he’s very picky about what he eats...with almost no appetite yet.


22 posted on 10/18/2020 6:44:24 AM PDT by sheana
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To: 11th_VA

I just order on line and get the curbside pickup at Lowes and Home depot , no need to stand in line with someone coughing or sneezing.


23 posted on 10/18/2020 6:57:00 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: norcal joe
The only long-run effects of viruses (especially common ones like influenza) of which I've read are fatigue. What these stories relate about the long-run effect (well, a few months after "recovery") of COVID19 are much more serious. These lingering effects seems fairly wide spread, and is further supported by FReepers who've reported their saga with this bug.

I totally agree that a risk-based approach to this virus - keep schools and jobs open, shield the elderly and infirm, exile Connie Corleone and Michigan Medusa - would have saved lives, lowered unemployment, been less disruptive, and so on. Indeed, as I posted recently, on the new "hot spot" Idaho, the under 30 crowd accounts for 40% of cases and 0.2% of fatalities while those 70+ yrs old account for 8% of cases and 80% of fatalities. All young people I know who've had this thing felt tired and coughed a lot - after a few days of quarantine they were ready to get back to life.

So yes, a lot of damage was inflicted unnecessarily, but I hardly consider the truth to be fear porn.

24 posted on 10/18/2020 8:02:46 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: BunnySlippers

I’m sure this is why they are not allowing people in bus and restaurants ...Barbers and hair stylists .... etc.

= = = = = =

Not sure what part of the country you are in....but, in TX, restaurants are open at 75% and barber/hair salons have been open for months. Bars have recently opened, at a minimized percent (those that serve food have been open.)

NO uptick in hospitalization rates, and no real uptick in cases.

Lots of false postive cases, tho.


25 posted on 10/18/2020 8:14:32 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Related study:

Multi-organ impairment in low-risk individuals with long COVID

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.14.20212555v1.full.pdf


26 posted on 10/18/2020 8:17:04 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Jane Long

Wow, very interesting. Yes I am in California. it’s rough!!!


27 posted on 10/18/2020 8:38:48 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love BULL MARKETS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a bullet list in the article:

“A growing body of research is showing that patients may have cardiac effects, even if they were not sick enough to be hospitalized.

About half of patients admitted to the hospital for COVID-19 had kidney damage, according to a study of 4,000 patients from Mount Sinai Hospital System in New York. Of those, 82% had no prior history of kidney problems.

CT scans of the inside of patients’ lungs show that even asymptomatic people can have lung damage, according to the peer-reviewed journal Nature Medicine.”


28 posted on 10/18/2020 8:57:22 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: calenel

Your odds of surviving, IF you catch the virus, are:

0-19 = 99.997%

20-49 = 99.98%

50-69 = 99.5

70+ = 94.6%

CDC numbers. Not “just the flu”, but hardly instant death.


29 posted on 10/18/2020 8:59:40 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: firebrand

“according to the peer-reviewed journal Nature Medicine”

Do you really trust medical journals any more? Including Never Trump Journals?


30 posted on 10/18/2020 9:00:46 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: dila813

All kinds of sweating are good.

The tarantella, a dance created for people who had been bitten by the spider.

A friend of mine used to take hot showers as soon as he got the first symptom of a cold. It worked.


31 posted on 10/18/2020 9:01:29 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Mr Rogers

I don’t trust wishful thinking

Everyone wants the disease to be history. Some people give in to their longings.


32 posted on 10/18/2020 9:05:37 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

I don’t trust doctors with TDS. Too many journals have it.


33 posted on 10/18/2020 9:19:00 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: calenel

It is astonishing that some people with access to actual data on the results of this virus are still in denial about its dangers.


1) What is actual data? You don’t have it any more than any one else. Humans are so complex. One week eggs are good for you, the next week not. That is your data. Statistics to 10 decimal points don’t mean anything but they look good.

2) Your accusations of denial of dangers? Where do you get that from?

Just like my discussion of reducing the size of government, libbers accuse me of anarchy.

Systems. We live in systems. We do not look at things in isolation. But when we look at systems it becomes clear we are not in control. Can’t have that so we go back to the minutia like masks that we think we can control.


34 posted on 10/18/2020 9:38:41 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Mr Rogers

It is unfortunate that the first real global pandemic got politicized. I sometimes have to differ with some of my conservative friends and this is one of those times.

Many things were built into this bioweapon, and it seems that political division was one of them.

Or maybe we are just like that science-fiction species that will fight no matter what. “You don’t have to starve them to get them to fight; it’s their nature to fight,” says the guy in the pet store.


35 posted on 10/18/2020 10:23:18 AM PDT by firebrand
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