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My experience with the 2020/2021 flu vaccine (Flucelvax PFS 0.5 ml
Patriot777

Posted on 10/08/2020 9:35:52 AM PDT by Patriot777

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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Here is a list of vaccines that absolutely use fetal cells...

https://cogforlife.org/wp-content/uploads/fetalproductsall.pdf
41 posted on 10/08/2020 10:18:00 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: steve86

same, only it wasn’t the high dose- never have reactions to flu shots- i watch people around me who don’t get the shot suffer terribly from the flu- and yes, i see some who don’t get shots breeze right through the flu seasons with no issues what so ever- I will still occasionally get the flu with some mild symptoms even with flu shot, but nothing like when i didn’t get flu shots- I usually end up With breathing issue without the shot- flues in the past were horrible for me-


42 posted on 10/08/2020 10:19:39 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Perseverando

we had a neighbor get that- really messed her up for a bit- thankfully it’s rare- but for those that do get it it can be awful i guess-


43 posted on 10/08/2020 10:20:35 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Well my years in military and law enforcement prove you wrong again!


44 posted on 10/08/2020 10:23:18 AM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: Patriot777

“Received the 2020/2021 flu vaccine yesterday morning, and by approximately 3 PM I experienced some mild fatigue, other than thinking that I was kicked in the left arm by a mule.

Then, by 7:30 PM I had a nice headache, body aches, and pretty sure a slight fever that went on through last night’s VP Debate (yep, watched it), and all through the night.”

Sounds like me after my second Shingles shot last mid November. My FP and RN wife wondered months later, if I was one of the early CV19 victims. I was impacted from Thanksgiving week to Christmas week. I, also, had blood in my urine the first few days.

We belong to the big West Coast HMO, and I ended with basically every test known from an MRI to other electronic tests to basically every lab test. All the tests were normal or in the normal range with zippo/nada answers. When a basically healthy 80 year guy has the above symptoms, they go full bore to try and find out why.


45 posted on 10/08/2020 10:24:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separated Satire, Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Patriot777

I get the flu vaccine ( high dose old folks version) every year and other than some soreness at the injection site no problems. My 6 month old grandson had influenza B and despite close contact I did not contract the flu. Influenza B was rampant in the area last fall..again I avoided the flu. However, I may have had COVID in late December. I tested negative for influenza, but had all symptoms of COVID including respiratory problems that had me in the ER one evening. Other early COVID cases were confirmed in the area in December. Needless to say I fully recovered from my likely COVID


46 posted on 10/08/2020 10:29:38 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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To: Okeydoker

Yeah, that makes two of us in the Military.


47 posted on 10/08/2020 10:30:42 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Perseverando

I developed Guillain-Barré after getting the 1976 Swine Flu
vaccination.

Decades later if I’m really tired I have the aches in my upper jaw bones.

The Public Health Legacy of the 1976 Swine Flu Outbreak ...www.discovermagazine.com › health › the-public-healt...
Sep 30, 2013 — Of the 45 million people vaccinated against the 1976 swine flu, four hundred and fifty people developed the rare syndrome Guillain-Barré. From the CDC, In 1976 there was a small increased risk of GBS following vaccination with an influenza vaccine made to protect against a swine flu virus.


48 posted on 10/08/2020 10:34:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separated Satire, Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Patriot777

To all those posting...how many of you keep your vit D levels about 50-80?


49 posted on 10/08/2020 10:39:19 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Patriot777

Never had much reaction with any Flu shots - I probably didn’t develop much in way of antibodies. I had the Flu once when I was in my early teens and never had it again despite many years w/o taking the vaccine - I turn 68 on election day (Same as Jim Rob’s Birthday - don’t forget to wish him well and to vote to ensure he has a good shot at a very happy Birthday).
The years I took the Flu shot, I had more, longer lasting colds than when i leave my immune system alone - I’m probably in that group where the Flu shot makes me more likely to get other respiratory diseases.

The wife, on the other hand, gets the Flu shot religiously because the couple years she didn’t get it, she got the Flu.


50 posted on 10/08/2020 10:43:42 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Patriot777

Getting Flublok quadrivalent this year. Triple the strength of regular flu shot and made using recombinant DNA instead of being egg-based.


51 posted on 10/08/2020 10:46:35 AM PDT by Ken H (Best SOTU ever!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I think you’re misreading your link, or your link is mistaken. For instance, they call out Moderna. Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine candidate contains only mRNA and a lipid shell. What part of that is aborted fetal cells?

https://catholicvoiceomaha.com/is-the-coronavirus-vaccine-made-from-fetal-cell-lines/


52 posted on 10/08/2020 10:46:48 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: trebb

“(Same as Jim Rob’s Birthday - don’t forget to wish him well and to vote to ensure he has a good shot at a very happy Birthday).”

______

“good shot” => ROFL!


53 posted on 10/08/2020 10:51:44 AM PDT by Ken H (Best SOTU ever!)
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To: Patriot777

Flu vaccination recommendations for 2020:

Optimally, vaccination should occur before onset of influenza activity in the community. Because the timing of the onset, peak, and decline of influenza activity varies, the ideal time to start vaccinating cannot be predicted each season. Local outbreaks can begin as early as October, but CDC reports that 75% of influenza seasons peak in January or later.

CDC recommends that vaccination should be offered by the end of October. Children age 6 months to 8 years without two prior doses of flu vaccine need 2 doses and should get their first influenza vaccination as soon as vaccine becomes available to ensure they are fully vaccinated before the onset of community outbreaks.

Several studies have reported decreases in vaccine effectiveness over the influenza season.

However, waning effects have not been observed consistently across age groups, virus subtypes, and seasons. While delaying vaccination might permit greater immunity later in the season, deferral could result in missed opportunities to vaccinate, as well as difficulties in vaccinating a large number of people within a more limited time period.

For people who need only 1 dose, early vaccination (i.e., July and August) can result in reduced immune protection towards the end of the influenza season, particularly for older adults.

Should our practice consider revaccinating our high risk and older patients a second time during the year due to concerns with waning immunity?

For people who have already been fully vaccinated, revaccination later in the season is not recommended.

https://www.immunize.org/askexperts/experts_inf.asp


54 posted on 10/08/2020 10:53:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separated Satire, Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Patriot777

Good info. Thank you for posting,


55 posted on 10/08/2020 10:54:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Patriot777

Received a flu shot at the VA a week ago. Two days later I had a full throat and stabbing pains in my right lung with each breath. All gone a day later but it had me wondering if I finally got hit with the Big One.

Been taking these shots yearly and this is the only time I have had any kind of reaction. Age 87.


56 posted on 10/08/2020 11:34:51 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Patriot777

My husband and I, our daughter, and her kids all had flu shots and had no reaction other than a sore arm for a day.


57 posted on 10/08/2020 12:38:50 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (I'm old enough to remember when you actually had to be able to do something to be hired to do it.)
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To: Patriot777

Most likely you had an immune response to the vaccine, meaning that your body is building antibodies to the flu virus’s in the vaccine (just bits and pieces of the flu virus’s, not Live Attenuated virus’s)
Normal reaction.
Even the mule kick to the shoulder. :)


58 posted on 10/08/2020 12:47:59 PM PDT by coincheck (Salvation is for today, not tomorrow, you might not make it that far.....)
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To: Patriot777

“And I’d think it was worth it; haven’t had the flu even once since I started getting the shot back in the 80s.

............

Nor have I since I stopped getting the shot.

If I do, the Vitamin D hammer knocks it out in less than 3 days.


59 posted on 10/08/2020 1:01:39 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: Honorary Serb
Everyone should,

.....

No chance.

60 posted on 10/08/2020 1:03:43 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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