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A Mammoth Find Near Mexico City
Sapiens ^ | 1 Oct, 2020 | Pablo Hernández Mares

Posted on 10/03/2020 5:26:30 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: PIF

Thank you. Great summation.


21 posted on 10/03/2020 8:09:29 AM PDT by angmo (America invented the Moon, so we could go there.)
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To: MtnClimber

You sure they weren’t domesticated by the Mayans?

https://uncoveredhistory.com/honduras/copan/the-elephants-of-copan/


22 posted on 10/03/2020 8:13:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: ArtDodger

They always add “not caused by a single event.” I wonder why?


23 posted on 10/03/2020 8:30:41 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Dating is never that precise. Carbon dating before 1400BC goes off the rails when dating known events. Any dating before then is suspect and somewhat arbitrary.


24 posted on 10/03/2020 8:35:05 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: D Rider
They always add “not caused by a single event.” I wonder why?
Some bones are older than others.
25 posted on 10/03/2020 8:49:39 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: D Rider

Carbon dating, properly done, is certainly more precise than to give an age of “between 20,000 and 10,000 years” for a single event. There is always imprecision in any method of radiometric dating. The article didn’t give any estimates of uncertainty for the dates, but I’d bet that they wouldn’t be several thousand years.


26 posted on 10/03/2020 8:56:20 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

So they (whoever they are) operated mammoth traps for 10,000 years?


27 posted on 10/03/2020 9:20:15 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Hiddigeigei

Like I said before carbon dating goes of the rails before 1400bc in a progressive fashion. The difference between 10,000 And 20,000 years could be conceivably just 200 actual years. Truth is we do not know other than the dating is unreliable. Since we do not know how to correlate the dates to actual time we use what we get. But it leaves a potential misconception about what is really going on.


28 posted on 10/03/2020 9:30:44 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: D Rider

Where did the article say anything about humans killing any of the mammoths?


29 posted on 10/03/2020 10:26:38 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

It didn’t. I have been following the find for some time. Sorry.


30 posted on 10/03/2020 10:35:58 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

The article is incomplete on what they have found.


31 posted on 10/03/2020 10:37:44 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: D Rider

No worries. All I’ve seen about it was the article posted today. So, were some or all of the mammoths killed by humans, then?

As for the reliability of the carbon dating done for this particular project, I can’t really tell much one way or the other without going to the actual scientific publications about it. Unfortunately, I have a lot of other things to do, so I probably won’t.


32 posted on 10/03/2020 10:48:01 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: MtnClimber

Mammoths should have put up a sign that said: STAY OUT!


33 posted on 10/03/2020 5:36:31 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: MtnClimber

BBQ


34 posted on 10/03/2020 5:39:39 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love BULL MARKETS!)
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To: D Rider

Since carbon-14 has a half life of 5,730 years, carbon dating is valid (with increasing plus or minus error ) up to about 60,000 years depending on the carbon content of the sample. Advances in mass-spect equipment has made it more accurate particularly with small samples. Have you been involved in any branch of radiometric dating?


35 posted on 10/03/2020 7:06:49 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei

The issue is the results spin off around 1400bc from historical dates. There are those that point out that hc is the real constant if this us true is might explain what is going on with radiometric dating which assumes c is constant. The issue is not the measurement but the interpretation of the measurement taken. If c and h are changing then so is the decay rate.


36 posted on 10/03/2020 7:19:11 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: PIF

“The Comet strike ushered in the Younger Dryas Period which was even colder than the Ice Age and lasted another 1000 years when another part of the comet cloud struck earth and ended the cold and began the present warming period we are in geologically.”

Pardon my iggernunce, but why does one strike make it cold and the next make it warm?


37 posted on 10/03/2020 7:19:36 PM PDT by dsc (Do not pray for easy lives; pray to be stronger men.)
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To: MtnClimber

There was a Mammoth population on Wrangel Island in the Russian Arctic up until 4000 years ago.

Mammoths and Ancient Egyptian culture existed at the same point in time.


38 posted on 10/03/2020 7:31:11 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: dsc

but why does one strike make it cold and the next make it warm?


Confusing right? The first event struck the ice cap in the vicinity of the Great Lakes an caused temps to plummet from all the fires whose as rose to make a long period of what we would call a “nuclear winter”.

The second, a 1000 year later, ended the Younger Dryas by possibly shattering a ice blockage of the Gulf Stream (this is just a scenario, as it cannot be proved at this time, but is a likely conjecture). Releasing the Gulf Stream warm ocean currents thawed the shores of the Atlantic as it does to this day


39 posted on 10/04/2020 4:48:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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40 posted on 10/04/2020 6:05:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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