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Sounds to me like an inside job.

The dims have to cover all the cheating bases.

Your thinking on my lines. I think they were stolen a while back and they have been scrambling to cover it up...and with the glitch the other morning ..now just talking out loud not knowing a thing about the machines....was there a safety net placed in and when things didn't line up they had no option but to start the voting. Not sure if its to their benefit or ours.

Max M. Marin

(Investigative reporter )

A laptop and USB devices were stolen sometime this week from the Philadelphia’s elections storage warehouse.

I went over this morning to check out the security situation. I was able to walk right into the voting machine storage unit, alone, for several minutes.

A laptop and USB devices were stolen sometime this week from the Philadelphia’s elections storage warehouse.

I went over this morning to check out the security situation. I was able to walk right into the voting machine storage unit, alone, for several minutes. pic.twitter.com/N0SpMMKP6T— Max M. Marin (@MaxMMarin) October 1, 2020

City Commissioners told me this morning the stolen devices have been disabled & they do not compromise the integrity of the Nov. election.

When this video ends, I ran into an staffer who told me press can’t be in the building. I told him the door was open & I announced my name.

This is the outside of the storage warehouse where the theft took place. I didn’t see any security cameras outside or in the building.

The staffer wouldn’t answer my questions about security. On the phone, Deputy City Nick Custodian told me that a security guard should be stationed there at all times now. He was not for some reason. I did see a security walking to the other end of the property when I pulled up.

There’s a man sitting in the door now, more staffers coming in and out of the building. I likely just walked in at a moment where no one is around, but the ease of access was still alarming to me.

Story:https://t.co/AagTgmNbZA— Max M. Marin (@MaxMMarin) October 1, 2020

JUST IN: In response to the theft & my subsequent reporting from the warehouse, @PhillyMayor

is ramping up security:

- Increased guards at the site 24/7

- Adding round-the-clock police presence

- a new logging procedure for entering/exiting the building

JUST IN: In response to the theft & my subsequent reporting from the warehouse, @PhillyMayor is ramping up security:

- Increased guards at the site 24/7
- Adding round-the-clock police presence
- a new logging procedure for entering/exiting the buildinghttps://t.co/AagTgmNbZA— Max M. Marin (@MaxMMarin) October 1, 2020

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Chris Alfano

there's a lot of assuming here that access to the inactive machines means more than the ability to lift a pile of scrap

BenVC

How do you know these are inactive and not going to be used in the upcoming election? Huge problem here IMO

Chris Alfano

they're in a warehouse with bags over them, it's something reasonable to confirm but I can't imagine they're ready to count votes without some on-site final setup

localzuk

That's just the thing. Physical access to a device like this is enough to totally compromise it. Those on site final setup steps would likely never know a machine was compromised.

Chris Alfano

maybe, maybe not. that's assuming a lot about the machine and system's architecture, if by compromise we mean actually have an impact on the election without tripping any safeguards

Chris Alfano

my point is: our election security model shouldn't be premised on locking down the warehousing and distribution of machines to school gymnasiums in every county across the country. there's always thing to be unlocked doors no one's standing by while these things sit around

localzuk

4h

Which is why electronic voting is a bad idea.

Chris Alfano

I agree, but a cursory search shows the reality to be a reasonable compromise:

I agree, but a cursory search shows the reality to be a reasonable compromise: https://t.co/qiWhZxW6nu— Chris Alfano (@themightychris) October 1, 2020

Max M. Marin

5h

JUST IN: In response to the theft & my subsequent reporting from the warehouse, @PhillyMayor is ramping up security:

- Increased guards at the site 24/7

- Adding round-the-clock police presence

- a new logging procedure for entering/exiting the building

Max M. Marin

(Investigative reporter )

A laptop and USB devices were stolen sometime this week from the Philadelphia’s elections storage warehouse.

I went over this morning to check out the security situation. I was able to walk right into the voting machine storage unit, alone, for several minutes.

City Commissioners told me this morning the stolen devices have been disabled & they do not compromise the integrity of the Nov. election.

When this video ends, I ran into an staffer who told me press can’t be in the building. I told him the door was open & I announced my name.

This is the outside of the storage warehouse where the theft took place. I didn’t see any security cameras outside or in the building.

The staffer wouldn’t answer my questions about security. On the phone, Deputy City Nick Custodian told me that a security guard should be stationed there at all times now. He was not for some reason. I did see a security walking to the other end of the property when I pulled up.

There’s a man sitting in the door now, more staffers coming in and out of the building. I likely just walked in at a moment where no one is around, but the ease of access was still alarming to me.

Story:https://t.co/AagTgmNbZA— Max M. Marin (@MaxMMarin) October 1, 2020

JUST IN: In response to the theft & my subsequent reporting from the warehouse, @PhillyMayor

is ramping up security:

- Increased guards at the site 24/7

- Adding round-the-clock police presence

- a new logging procedure for entering/exiting the building

*******************************************

Chris Alfano

there's a lot of assuming here that access to the inactive machines means more than the ability to lift a pile of scrap

BenVC

How do you know these are inactive and not going to be used in the upcoming election? Huge problem here IMO

Chris Alfano

they're in a warehouse with bags over them, it's something reasonable to confirm but I can't imagine they're ready to count votes without some on-site final setup

localzuk

That's just the thing. Physical access to a device like this is enough to totally compromise it. Those on site final setup steps would likely never know a machine was compromised.

Chris Alfano

maybe, maybe not. that's assuming a lot about the machine and system's architecture, if by compromise we mean actually have an impact on the election without tripping any safeguards

Chris Alfano

my point is: our election security model shouldn't be premised on locking down the warehousing and distribution of machines to school gymnasiums in every county across the country. there's always thing to be unlocked doors no one's standing by while these things sit around

localzuk

4h

Which is why electronic voting is a bad idea.

Chris Alfano

I agree, but a cursory search shows the reality to be a reasonable compromise: I agree, but a cursory search shows the reality to be a reasonable compromise: https://t.co/qiWhZxW6nu— Chris Alfano (@themightychris) October 1, 2020

Max M. Marin

5h

JUST IN: In response to the theft & my subsequent reporting from the warehouse, @PhillyMayor is ramping up security:

- Increased guards at the site 24/7

- Adding round-the-clock police presence

- a new logging procedure for entering/exiting the building

I agree, but a cursory search shows the reality to be a reasonable compromise:

I agree, but a cursory search shows the reality to be a reasonable compromise: https://t.co/qiWhZxW6nu— Chris Alfano (@themightychris) October 1, 2020