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1 posted on 09/30/2020 8:32:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I do not believe their test results.

The African coincidence is too strong evidence that it works.


33 posted on 09/30/2020 9:10:12 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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Yet another bogus study. HCQ works by getting more zinc into cells. Don’t take a zinc supplement with it and you haven’t got much zinc to speak of to get into those cells.


37 posted on 09/30/2020 9:36:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Oh, and only 125 in the study in total, so just over 60 in each group if evenly divided. With a difference of only 0.3% of infection rate, that is just a fraction of one study participant—so only the difference in the two group sizes not being identical. It looks like they had all of four in each group test positive. But with sketchy testing and lots of false positives, who knows? No matter what, a study where there is no zinc given and only four in each group test positive in the two months anyway is pathetic. Yet AMA publishes this propaganda.


38 posted on 09/30/2020 9:41:28 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Major premise mistake. There is the virus, SARS-2COV, and the disease it may cause, Covid-19. Normally only perhaps 10% (or less) of people with the virus (or traces), as measured by oversensitive PCR test, actually develop symptoms of Covid-19.

We do care who tests positive via PCR for current or old trades of the virus. Just like nobody cares who has traces of the flu virus. We care about symptoms of the disease, and how severe they are. All else is hysterical noise.

HCQ is not meant to prevent or reduce the number of asymptomatic people who test positive on a SARS2-COV2 PCR test. It’s to prevent severe reaction to SARS-COV2 as manifested as Covid-19 Disease.

And nobody in the study, treatment or placebo, got Covid-19 disease. Zip, zero, nada. So the study proved...

NOTHING.

I still have a hard time understanding how stupid people are, including published scientists. Stupid, stupid, stupid.


40 posted on 09/30/2020 9:56:10 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (This is all a Soros funded communist insurrection!)
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"6.3 percent of those who took the hydroxychloroquine had tested positive for COVID-19 while 6.6 percent of those who took the placebos were positive."

These numbers make no sense. There were 125 participants. This means that 3.9 hydroxychloroquine people tested positive, and 4.12 placebo people tested positive. Of course, that's impossible. ALL were non-symptomatic.

One wonders how many false positives were the reason?

41 posted on 09/30/2020 10:04:19 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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I don’t believe a word of it. IMO HCQ has been a known cure for this disease even before Covid 19 was spread out of china. This has been suppressed because if it was known we would NOT have been able to have this fake pandemic.


42 posted on 09/30/2020 10:18:58 AM PDT by precisionshootist (uic)
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Bogus study.. Must have zinc plus ascorbic acid.


43 posted on 09/30/2020 10:47:16 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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We have heard for a long time about Political Science. Well we now have a specialty called Political Medicine. We have really seen it with the CV-19 crisis and President Trump. It could have been stopped but instead we are still seeing articles like this, that is totally contradictory to all other ‘scientific’, or unbiased, studies.


55 posted on 09/30/2020 12:06:55 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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The article presents this as if someone has been claiming hcq “prevents” Covid19 infection. Who made that claim?


56 posted on 09/30/2020 12:10:21 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Thats how they are stipping working meds, in the phase 3 placebo trial. HCQ has virtually no side effects, so can someone tell whoever not to prevent me from trying it.


60 posted on 09/30/2020 12:36:47 PM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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No zinc = fake study


64 posted on 10/03/2020 6:29:24 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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Yet another study looking to trash HCQ by excluding zinc.


65 posted on 10/03/2020 6:30:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Maybe too soon to rule out hydroxychloroquine; tricking the immune system

In a series of randomized controlled trials, the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine did not show a statistically significant impact on the prevention or treatment of COVID-19. But when data from five of those trials were combined, researchers found that early use of the drug by people who were not hospitalized yielded a statistically significant 24% reduction in risk of infection, hospitalization or death. “The meta-analysis pools together the studies and increases statistical power,” said Dr. Joseph Ladapo of the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA, coauthor of a report posted on Wednesday on medRxiv ahead of peer review. But a weakness of the meta-analysis, Ladapo acknowledged, is that infections, hospitalizations and deaths were grouped together into a “composite outcome.” Combining all those events into one big number makes it more likely researchers will find that treatment had a significant effect. Coauthor Dr. Harvey Risch of the Yale School of Public Health noted that seven nonrandomized controlled trials have also shown “statistically significant reduced risks with early outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine.” Along with the meta-analysis, he told Reuters, “This is extremely strong evidence of benefit.” (https://bit.ly/2SlHEeE)
https://news.yahoo.com/maybe-too-soon-rule-hydroxychloroquine-210456294.html


66 posted on 10/03/2020 6:38:04 AM PDT by ironman
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