Posted on 09/29/2020 9:50:28 PM PDT by crz
Report from friends on the front lines of the Creek Fire and other fires in CA
thx for the report...keep us posted if you hear more...
More..most areas 90% of the timber has burned. Many places the fire got so hot that the ground is sterilized and will never grow anything again for a long time.
The average dia of timber in many of the areas is over 3 feet...DBH. Lots of 4 feet and 6 ft timber burned and fallen over.
Destroyed an entire eco system from lack of proper timber harvesting.
Newsom will keep the narrative,”trust the science,” climate change nonsense. Sadly, I don’t see anything changing. It’s a given Sacto doesn’t give two sh*ts about we the people if it doesn’t go with their doctrine(s).
Far as the old timer knows..is that its in the park now.
Yosemite?
The mismanagement of the fires began during the Clinton years when environmentalist took over the policies of government towards forest management.
I have watched it firsthand.
There is an irony that is lost on most people in this debate. It is this. The left tells us to respect the science and listen to the experts.
The PhD’s for the Forest Service who understand these fires and the forest and forest management have been saying for years that we need to change what we do and actively manage our lands with controlled burns, thinning, logging, and all of the above. Another irony is that this diversity within the forest (does not exist now) would be beneficial for wildlife as well as wildland firefighters!
14 minute video from a man who truly understands this problem! We have too many trees!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edDZNkm8Mas
The irony is BLM used to mean Bureau of Land Management.
It began in the early 70s. First it was Old Growth, then the fish, then the Owls, then this and that.
The last seminar I was at last year a report was read about how to expect fire to triple in devastation by the year 2030.
After that, it will be all burned over and then the burned over areas will have multiple layers of timber that had fallen over by previous fires and on it will go from there.
IMO, the only way to handle this debacle now is to set up massive biomass power plants and get in and clear up that mess and then replant after-if anything will grow after those fires that is. There is no surface soil in areas that have burned hot now, so it wont support regeneration.
Maybe seeding by air, pinus banksiana..Jack Pine?
I can guarantee you that I could brush hog ten thousand acres in a month with a few machines.
Here is one for NUSCUM. And acre of a healthy forest will remove 6 tons of pollution out of the air per year.
That acre will add as much in benefits to the air in the same period.
Would they burn down whole states just so they can blame “climate change?
My St Helens was declared dead for decades or centuries after it erupted. Het, the next spring new life emerged.
It would be nice to take than ben zona out by the woodshed and educate him how the real world works, not the childish pseudo-science and pettiness he believes.
Yes.
Years ago (70? 100+?) the SE USA had lots of fires. Then they started managing their forests and forest fires have gone way down. Another freeper mentioned a lot of that is private land.
Again - it is the farmer, rancher, private landowner that knows real conservation. Open up the West to more logging (and more gov’t revenues) and pay some folks to manage the land. Maybe do it private management, and they get a cut of the income off the well-managed forests?
The irony about the spotted owl is that the primary cause of the population reduction was another type of owl that was predatory. In the areas of forest they’ve migrated to, logging has had no impact on them.
They won’t allow controlled burns or even collecting and burning slash piles because of “air quality” so instead it just sits on the ground waiting for the next big fire and then it is so hot it kills and burns all the live stuff too.
Realistically we need an all of the above strategy, but if we could only do one thing it would be controlled burns in the spring and fall when conditions are right to consume ground fuels and not kill trees/wildlife.
Nope
Newsome admitted to Trump that California had not done its part in forest management and was grateful for the new forest management partnership they had put together...
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