[fireman15]

It would probably be more accurate to say that he died with Covid-19. My wife’s brother had an inoperable cancerous brain tumor and was on hospice care. When he died they said his cause of death was “presumptive covid-19”. No tests were ever done to confirm it...they were not available to anyone but politicians, celebrities and health care workers at the time. No one in the family has ever tested positive. It was total BS and I have been mistrustful of the death statistics on Covid ever since.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

"It would probably be more accurate to say that he died with Covid-19."

So if somebody had shot him, it would have been more accurate to say that he died with a bullet?

The guy was alive, living with whatever health issues he had, until he got COVID-19 and died. Him and about 200,000 other people who are all excess mortality numbers since March. Mortality numbers were normal, then suddenly shot way above the excess threshold and stayed there every single week since March. It's ridiculous to think that the excess deaths and the ongoing SARS-CoV-2 infections that doctors around the world (including doctors right here on FR) are killing people are unrelated.

I had one person try to tell me all the excess deaths are because of suicides, as if 200,000 people jumping off rooftops and nobody noticed. We shouldn't be trying to deny reality, we should be working to indict Governor Cuomo and others whose responses led directly to thousands of unnecessary deaths, and we should be attacking all the ineffective measures from people like Governor Newsom in California who's spending hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars putting homeless people (who aren't at risk because they live outside) up in hotels for months on end (actually INCREASING their risk while burning up critical funding). We should be pointing out that it's states like New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts that have done the worst - by far - in deaths per million population thanks to the failed policies of their ineffective leaders. Hang this whole disaster around their necks and let them own it.

Meanwhile, President Trump has been working to provide Federal assistance to the states throughout the whole thing and will soon earn his status as the hero who's ending the COVID-19 disaster (and all the shutdowns, masks, economic impacts, etc. that go with it) when he announces that a safe and effective vaccine is shipping to your local pharmacy. LOOK at the how the Democrats' messaging is starting to change on COVID-19. They see the writing on the wall. They see that their months-long strategy is about to blow up in their faces.

Don't minimize this thing, let the Democrats OWN their failures and let President Trump own his success!