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pardon my rant below, but you are absolutely correct. I’ve posted this in numerous places and threads hoping the right people will take notice.

Chinese students should not be allowed in US University STEM programs.

IP theft is real, however espionage driven IP theft is being accomplished at an alarming rate w significant damage to the USA’s future. But there is a third trail of IP theft that is seldom mentioned, this IP theft is initially at US university research labs where successful processes and technologies eventually became start-up companies.

Most US university research result in dead-ends through no fault of the researchers, its research. But that is the source of my rant; Chinese students are the platinum standard of campus cheaters. Seldom is there a class w only one or two Chinese students, 4-6 is standard size for group cheaters. In STEM programs there could be 2 or 3 Chinese groups cheating. Don’t get me wrong, Chinese students attend classes, learn and study as well as any student, but they have ways to cheat that a thesis could be written on. Not that most universities care about Chinese cheaters, the Chinese students pay full tuition, funding and donations by the CCP (Chinese Comm Party) to upgrade or build new labs or tech is numerous and in $$$ millions. The group cheaters are given preferential access to class selections to maintain group continuity. This is done under the guise of cultural stress if group continuity is lost. How sweet and understanding we in the West are.

Seldom do Chinese students major in fluff programs, no middle Euro art or 16th century architecture majors. Most are in STEM (sci-tech-eng-math) programs at major universities, these are the majors that get the students into the CCP or move them up the CCP hierarchy when they return to China. Most Chinese STEM students are vying for entrance into Masters Programs w the ultimate goal of university research centers and labs. Remember, most Chinese students are platinum level cheaters and didn’t earn their access into university research centers and labs on their own. But CCP donations and the universities’ love for diversity is paramount.

This is where espionage driven IP theft weave with university research centers and labs that provide a roadmap to find what needs to be stolen. Start-up companies that spin off from the research centers and labs are the most viable to result in commercial or military usage and success. Also provides easier espionage hacks into the start-ups early which is when they are most susceptible. As a start-up prospers and collaborates w or swallowed up by major corporations, the roadmap Chinese researchers provides the agents of espionage with the intellectual property “DNA” they need to find and steal. IOW, major Corps have 100s of millions of files stashed on their networks, having the “DNA = keywords or formulas or recipes or directory titles” can significantly simplify the theft and reduce detection of their incursion.

Again pardon the rant

I posted this on another thread a while back (in June). Fits here too:

“Because they are still in the employ of China and are expected to be spies and steal technology while they are here. Get. Them. Out!”

Here is a first person testimonial. Mine. I am retired from working at a major IL University (UIC). I now live in FL, not IL, thank goodness as Gov. Pricker reigns supreme in his IL Democrat wonderland. I worked directly for the Head of the Math Dept. at UIC, located right beside the heart of the City.

We had professors of many nationalities from all over the world. The mostly all liberal professors in our Dept. loved hiring Mathematicians from other countries over hiring Mathematicians from our own Country. Chinese students and professors seeking employment in the U.S. naturally navigated to the Sciences because they could steal our intellectual property and mathematical research and ferry this information back to China. They are almost all spies for China. One professor in particular I just knew was tied into the Chinese gov’t and he was one of our more senior profs. They get permanent resident Green Cards, but seldom become actual American citizens. He was like a traveling ping pong ball between Chicago where UIC is located, and China. Reporting back to his true masters in Beijing.

As an aside, many Chinese students also choose primarily the Sciences as vocations because so many of them speak the English language so poorly. Language is less important in the Sciences where you deal with number theory, experiments, projects, etc. Chinatown in Chicago was a 10 minute spit away from the UIC campus, thus creating a huge pool of Chinese students seeking out their education at UIC.

In our Math Dept. there were large numbers of Chinese graduate students, and it was the same in all of the Science Dept’s, soft and hard. Biology, Statistics, Chemistry, Robotics, Computers, Engineering, Medicine, you name it, the Chinese were studying it, and you better believe many of them were being subsidized in their educations by money from the Chinese gov’t. The enemy within.

I might add that the Sciences were also very attractive to students from the Middle East. Lots of students from Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. Our American Universities are an unwatched and dangerous pot of foreign students who pay the hard cash that Universities love, paying full freight, and also getting grants, loans, and funding at the expense of our own American students. Asians are considered minorities, and they, foreign or otherwise, along with Blacks and Hispanics from the U.S. and any country are given preference over Whites. I know this firsthand.

Too many of our major Universities today are cesspools of liberal ideology and foreign influence from those that do not have U.S. interests in mind. These Universities need to be cleaned out and shaped up big time; I ought to know; I worked amongst the ideological enemy at a large public one for many years.