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'Silent hypoxia' may be killing COVID-19 patients. But there's hope.
Live Science ^ | April 23, 2020 | By Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 09/05/2020 3:44:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: BeauBo; Swordmaker
Covid breathing tips
41 posted on 09/05/2020 6:41:06 PM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: Segovia

Of course everyone should be taking zinc and vitamin D. This will keep most folks from getting to the bradykinin and cytokine storm stage.

This analysis you posted is magnificent, but we need some doctors testing it out. Dr. Marik is using IV vitamin C and steroids in advanced covid. The good news in the article I posted is, if you can’t get to a doctor who uses Marik’s protocol, you can raise your blood ascorbate levels with oral ascorbic acid.

We need more doctors trying more approaches. Our Fauxi / pharma complex stifles innovation.


42 posted on 09/05/2020 8:24:55 PM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: TheWriterTX
I don’t want pity, but don’t lie to my face and tell me this crap isn’t as bad as the flu. My lungs would strongly disagree.

My sincerest sympathy goes out to you, Writer. It sounds like you’ve gone through hell, a hell which isn’t over. I agree the virus isn’t the flu. However, for us, my lady and I, whatever we had, felt like a moderate flu bug with some Covid symptoms, which took a long time getting over, if we ever fully did. . . and we both have co-morbidities that put us at risk. We dodged the bullets. You did not. I’m glad you survived.

We think we may have been exposed in late December when we flew back to California to visit family. On our way we stopped for breakfast at a Denny’s Restaurant just north of Las Vegas. When we were seated we got a two top table next to a long table where they’d seated a large Chinese family of parents and many children with two grandparents. They were all loudly chattering away in Chinese and everyone of them was coughing and hacking. A few of the younger ones had face masks. It was soon apparent the Chinese family had just arrived from China. We couldn’t hear each other over the din, and when we finally got attention from a server we asked for another table, but the place was packed and none were available.

It was about a week and a half later we got sick.

43 posted on 09/05/2020 10:07:52 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot1)
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To: familyop
Wouldn’t someone with a low blood oxygen level turn blue in the palms of the hands, upper cheeks under the eyes, etc.? It should be obvious. Saw it on myself and others during hikes at very high elevations (high altitudes) quite a number of times.

One would think so. . . in fact I did so turn blue during one of my heart attacks many years ago, so I have been doing a self-assessment for that very thing and, nope. No blueness.

That’s one thing I saw in my lady when her heart started failing when she had Takatsubo Syndrome five years ago. That’s also known as "Broken Heart Syndrome" and can kill one just as dead as a myocardial infarction if left untreated. It’s caused by a sudden adrenaline flood to the heart that shocks the upper left ventricle and leaves it completely stunned, shocked and incapable of pumping blood. My lady’s heart suddenly had only 15% heart function. She looked positively gray! Takotsubo Syndrome is the only heart failure one can recover from with proper treatment. It supposedly hits women, but I think that a lot of men who drop dead due to claimed MIs, which frequently don’t get autopsied, actually die from Takotsubo.

Speaking of heart issues in women. Women often don’t present myocardial infarction, heart attacks, with the same symptoms that men do. I had a very good woman friend who had a sudden onset of a cough with shortness of breath, which got worse when she lay down, and a slight ache in her shawl muscles of her shoulders. She asked me to see if she could get an appointment to see her doctor the next morning at the clinic. The appointments were full, but she could come into the walk-in clinic at 1pm. I picked her up and took her at 12:30 so she’d be in line to get in quickly. She was gray.

The triage nurse took one look at her and took her right back. No waiting. Put a four-lead EKG on her and a blood oximeter. EKG was fine, blood Ox was 75%! Nurse said, you need to go to the ER right now! She didn’t want to go. "I’ll just go home, it’s just a cough. I’m going home." I told her I thought she should listen to the ER nurse. She said, "I want to hear my doctor say that."

Doctor poked her head in and looked at her and said "you need to go to the ER, right now!"

It was about a 150 feet from the clinic, and she wouldn’t let them use a wheel chair. She walked over.

They saw her coming and had a chair waiting for her. They all thought she had a severe pneumonia and started working her up for that. They still hooked up an EKG. Everything there was ok.

They drew blood, did tests, told her they thought she had a really bad pneumonia. . . but nothing was touching it. Finally, a little, black (about four foot nothing) doctor from Nigeria said "To hell with that EKG! I’m going to run blood enzymes!"

About a half hour later all hell broke loose. . . Doctors and nurses were running all over the place. . . A doctor came in with a nurse to talk about incubating her. She didn’t like that idea. "I don’t look good with a tube down my throat." This was a woman who would put on makeup to go into surgery! I’m wondering why, what’s going on. . . A nurse pulls me aside and says were trying to find her a room in the ICU, Intensive Care Unit. . ."

I interrupt to ask why, what’s going on. She says "Because it’s not pneumonia, she’s had a massive heart attack.”

I’m stunned. I start calling to get a hold of her family. They move her into the ICU. I’ve gotten hold of her oldest son and he’s on his way when the cardiologist comes out. They’re busy getting her settled. I ask him "how bad is it?"

"It’s bad. She had it about 24 hours ago. They tell me she walked in here? I can’t believe that! Were you with her?"

"Yeah, i was. She walked in. She insisted in walking in. She just had a cough. When you say bad, are you talking about bypass? How many?"

"Sixty percent of her heart is gone! Are you SURE she walked in? I can’t believe it. . . We are in there starting a mainline into her heart and she’s watching the World Series rooting for the Yankees! I can’t believe she walked in! Her enzymes were higher than any I’ve seen in 25 years of practicing cardiology, and she’s not unconscious... you sure she walked in?”

"Doctor? Are you going to be doing bypass surgery?”

"Bypass? No. We are just going to be trying to keep her alive until tomorrow to see if there’s a heart available for transplant! And she’s watching the World Series. . . Oh my. . ."

Just then the PA blared "Code Blue ICU, Code BlueICU” and people popped out of the woodwork from everywhere and headed deliberately to the ICU room where my friend was been prepped and had been watching the last game of the World Series. I was watching outside the big sliding doors. They worked on her for over a half hour before calling it. . . but the strangest Twilight Zone thing was that through it all, even with a full twelve lead EKG, she had a perfect trace. . .even after they called it, and the echocardiogram showed no motion from her heart. The cardiologist pointed to it and asked "Does any one here have any kind of a sane explanation for that?" He looked around the ICU room at a lot of pale faces.

One nurse spoke up, "She had the strongest will to live I’ve ever seen!"

Fifteen minutes later the Yankees won the World Series. That EKG signal kept going until the tech turned it off. I asked the cardiologist about it and he said he’d never seen anything like it in his 25 years of practice. The EKG had kept them from an earlier diagnosis until Dr. (the little Nigerian lady) tossed out the obvious evidence in front of her eyes and took a wild assed guess it WAS a heart attack, and then still didn’t show anything wrong all the way through her heart actually dying before their eyes. He said "I have no explanation and we’re having everyone involved write up their experience and observations of this case. No one with 60% of their heart gone should have been able to have walked in here. I don’t understand it at all. It’s one for the books."

The upshot of this is that women do not present heart attacks in classic ways. Don’t take chances.

44 posted on 09/05/2020 11:26:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot1)
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To: Karoo
I have trouble breathing at night. Had sleep study and was prescribed CPAP.

I can sleep now! I cannot believe how well I sleep now. My brain is getting the oxygen it needs.

Been there done that, got the box of retired CPAP machines and tubing and masks, somewhere in the house I gave away.

Don’t have sleep apnea anymore. I got rid of it when I got rid of the 154 lbs of ugly Otiose about 15 years ago. Notice I don’t say I lost it, because that implies it might be found again. No thank you. It’s gone, never to return. I did my stint as a beached whale, gasping for air long enough.

It is a wonder the first time a CPAP lets one sleep through the night despite the head discomfort. It’s a modern miracle of technology. I found I had to have a water reservoir on mine or I got very dry nasal passages which got very painful. I was just as glad to be rid of it, though. Get rid of the excess weight, and the apnea problem went away. I was lucky that my apnea problem could be solved.

45 posted on 09/05/2020 11:42:53 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot1)
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To: timestax

I think they’re too large to be viruses, especially since we can see them with the naked eye. . , and likely to big to be bacteria, too. I’ve got it! They’re maggots. . . crawling and eating on the festering body of the Democrat political corpse. . .


46 posted on 09/05/2020 11:46:03 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot1)
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To: 21twelve

My phone has the same thing. But some here say its not reliable enough.

I tried it last night. My index finger read 94 and 96. My middle finger (why not?) read 98. I quit while I was ahead.


47 posted on 09/06/2020 5:24:22 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Segovia

Wow—thanks for posting.


48 posted on 09/07/2020 11:32:41 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Call an addiction hotline and say you're hooked on phonics.)
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To: Swordmaker

[That’s the test that is resulting in so many positive results due to it picking up fragmentary pieces of the virus RNA and DNA. They are now estimating it’s producing 90% false positives, depending on how many runs of multiplication of the chain they do. Some labs were getting far too many positives. Some were doing 40 to 50 runs. 35 was considered excessive. ]


I know of two people who recovered from this virus. They are in their 40’s and 50’s and big time fitness enthusiasts. Both felt weak during their difficulties with the infection. One was enervated to the point he was exhausted from climbing a flight of stairs. Prior to this illness, he might have taken the stairs two steps at a time, flight after flight.

Sorry to hear that your recovery has been rough going. Hope you and your SO get over the hump soon.


49 posted on 09/08/2020 9:29:54 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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