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Vaccine-derived polio spreads in Africa after defeat of wild virus
The Guardian ^ | 09/02/2020 | Peter Beaumont

Posted on 09/02/2020 7:57:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

We bombed Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki for their war-weapons producing capabilities. Still no calls or pickets to shut down L3 & L4 labs? Q? Question EVERYTHING.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wDHvmCVRxU


21 posted on 09/02/2020 8:23:44 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: LouieFisk

“I wouldn’t go to Sudan for medical treatment.”

I think that’s racist. ;)


22 posted on 09/02/2020 8:25:02 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If 100% of us contracted this Covid Virus only 99.997% would be left to tell our story.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I think that’s racist. ;)

More like survival-ist! Don’t go there if ya wanna survive whatever ails ya!


23 posted on 09/02/2020 8:27:54 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: All

https://www.verywellhealth.com/cytokine-storm-syndrome-4842383

Is there a correlation between prolonged mask wearing and detrimental effects on the Krebs Cycle?

How many Covid deaths are attributed to VAPING? Many of those chemicals are made in CHYna.


24 posted on 09/02/2020 8:34:27 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: BenLurkin

This is one of the reasons that I oppose any form of MANDATORY vaccines.


25 posted on 09/02/2020 8:41:58 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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To: BenLurkin

I will NEVER get another vaccine! NEVER!

Neither should you!

I’m NOT a rabid anti-vaxer. I just have a BRAIN!

Call me crazy, but could BIG pharma put a tiny little chip in your vaccine? Then REQUIRE EVERYONE to get this vaccine?

CRAZY! CONSPIRACY NUT!

The government would NEVER do anything like that!

Like give LSD unknowingly to Americans in a program that ran for TEN years? Program MK-Ultra

https://www.history.com/mkultra-operation-midnight-climax-cia-lsd-experiments.

Like a sitting president would SPY on a Presidential Candidate and President Elect from the other party?


26 posted on 09/02/2020 8:46:57 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: BenLurkin

They made a movie about that scenario. Most people on the planet perished.


27 posted on 09/02/2020 8:51:54 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: BenLurkin

Somebody has a big contract from WHO to keep making and using this vaccine
On Africans
Because it’s banned in the US and UK

Covid vaccine...what could go wrong?


28 posted on 09/02/2020 8:53:45 AM PDT by silverleaf (A live Biden speech is like a solar eclipse: rare, and leaves everyone in the dark)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

They may take a shortcut on phase 3
What could go wrong! Only the first successful coronavirus vaccine ever right? And all in 8 months

https://bgr.com/2020/08/31/coronavirus-vaccine-emergency-use-approval-fda-stephen-hahn/

Gotta get this out there before the public realizes the epidemic is over

But hey...HCQ trifecta treatment needs longer complete testing or it may kill you


29 posted on 09/02/2020 8:59:54 AM PDT by silverleaf (A live Biden speech is like a solar eclipse: rare, and leaves everyone in the dark)
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To: taxcontrol

“This is one of the reasons that I oppose any form of MANDATORY vaccines.”

People can’t be forced to take any vaccine.At least not in most of the Western world, including the US.


30 posted on 09/02/2020 9:24:07 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: silverleaf

They immediately walked back the speculation on any approvals before phase 3 trials completion. We’ll have phase 3 human trials results in hand before any approval is granted.

As for the “first successful coronavirus vaccine”, that’s pretty misleading for a few reasons, not the least of which is that we’ve already developed working vaccine candidates for coronaviruses twice before. There are only 7 coronaviruses known to infect humans. 4 of them cause mild to moderate upper respiratory symptoms and are responsible for 12-20% of “common colds” each year. No vaccine is coming because there are over 200 viruses known to cause colds and nobody is paying $20,000 a year for a vaccine to cover all 200 of them. The other three are SARS-CoV-1 (SARS2003), MERS-CoV (MERS2012), and SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19). Vaccine candidates were successfully created for SARS2003 and MERS2012. Both made it through phase 1 and phase 2 human trials. But those diseases burned out and phase 3 trials cost a fortune, so they never got funded. SARS-CoV-2 is still going and phase 3 trials are fully funded. We should have results from them soon.

The timeline is also not all that surprising. It took decades to get a working polio vaccine candidate. By the time we got to varicella (chickenpox), it took a few years. SARS2003 we had a vaccine candidate in 20 months. Ebola in 2014 took 7 months. Zika in 2016 took 6 months. SARS-CoV-2 in 2020 took 2 months.

That’s just incremental progress based on advances in science and technology. We’re able to map out an entire virus’ genetic code in weeks instead of months or years now. Using that and modern computing technology, we can identify ways to attack the virus before any lab testing has to be set up. Identifying antigens is now trivial. Delivering antigens to the human immune system to trigger an immune response is becoming far more routine as well. We’ve just gotten better at this whole process.


31 posted on 09/02/2020 9:24:16 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: LouieFisk

Not yet, but there are a whole lot of people pushing that agenda. Some here on FR even appear to support it.


32 posted on 09/02/2020 9:31:00 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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To: faucetman
"could BIG pharma put a tiny little chip in your vaccine?"

A chip with what function, exactly? How is the chip powered? What processing unit does it have? How much memory for instructions and data storage? What size is this chip? Where does the chip go? How many of them would get injected? How much does each one cost to manufacture? How do they communicate? If it's wifi, which access points can they connect to? If it's through mobile networks, how are they getting a signal with a microscopic antenna, no power for that antenna, and a whole lot of fluid and tissue blocking signal?

This is why this crazy conspiracy stuff always falls apart. As soon as you start asking some basic questions like "how would this work?", there's no answers. We don't know why, we don't know how, there's no technical details, and so on. The CIA didn't know the Berlin wall was coming down until bricks started hitting them in the head. I'm not worried about them having some crazy space alien technology from the future that's 100+ years beyond anything anyone in the world has ever seen before.

They have stuff that's a little faster, a little smaller, a little smarter than what you or I can buy on Amazon. What they don't have is magic from Hogwartz to create things that defy the laws of physics. And yes, I fully understand that because I don't buy into the conspiracy, I MUST be part of it. Me and probably a half billion other people. Because we all know how great humans are at keeping secrets.

33 posted on 09/02/2020 9:32:12 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: BenLurkin

‘Vaccine-derived outbreak’ is a brand new term for 2020. What in the name of the unholy Boston Red Sox is a vaccine-derived outbreak?


34 posted on 09/02/2020 9:33:46 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: taxcontrol

I don’t know that I’ve seen anyone here supporting forced or mandatory vaccination for COVID-19. I’m a big fan of vaccines in general (because I don’t like polio or smallpox), and I’m completely against mandatory vaccines. Every individual has a right to make their own decisions about what’s best for their own health and wellbeing.


35 posted on 09/02/2020 9:34:54 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Not new at all. The Cutter Incident from 1955 was hardly the first or the only case of bad quality control or bad judgement resulting in people getting sick who didn’t need to. In that case, a mom ‘n pop laboratory making the polio vaccine screwed up and people got sick with polio as a result.


36 posted on 09/02/2020 9:37:34 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: PGalt

This pestilence, COVID-19, Wuhan Flu, China Virus (Thank you, President Trump for telling it like it is), whatever label anyone wishes to slap on its tailgate, is a genetically-engineered biological weapon.

Red China, CCP, PRC whatever they wish to go by, was blood vessel-popping furious over our President striking at the very heart of their eugenics / torture / organ harvesting / murder of Christians, child army conscripting, cyber warfare, cyber crime, poisoning foodstuffs, maritime belligerence, ICBM enhance threats, supplying Iran / OTS with nuclear fuel, components, guidance systems, weapons / machinery of warfare, etc.

The sanctions and import / export chokehold and then all-out halting of anything from China, and thus the following crash of Communist China’s ‘economy’, expulsion of more Chicoms than any of us will ever know about-—all these and more were these Communist slime already primed and ready to open fire in retaliation. Xi says he owns all Chinese, so either as Red soldiers or other, Chinese New Year, millions vectored the Wuhan bioweapon into the U.S. and indeed the entire of earth’s nations, tribes, peoples and tongues.

Within the last few months there have been reports of a ‘resurgence’ of China Flu, and also diseases such as polio, Bubonic plague, and other pestilences in China. Doing some more bioengineering are they?

Indeed we are so very close to Christ Jesus’s Return. President Trump is likely the last Constitutional Republic President the United States will have, and prayerfully another blessing of 4 years. The devil is laying out his arsenal and those who love evil and despise good are excitedly awaiting their next orders. Indoctrination / download and install complete, these demon-possessed spawn of satan are attacking, and believers in Christ Jesus our Lord must put on the whole armor of God to fight the good fight of Faith, and having done all, to stand.

“Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid...”


37 posted on 09/02/2020 9:45:48 AM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I believe that you and I are aligned. My opinion comes from when I was a child and contra indicated for smallpox vaccine. I got it later when I joined the Army. I have had to do a lot of international travel and have a TON of other vaccines.

But that was my choice.


38 posted on 09/02/2020 9:45:54 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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To: BenLurkin
In the mid-1950s, I was a toddler and my mother was staying with Dad’s parents in East Texas while he was at Ft. Benning as a ROTC 2nd LT. I became ill and the local MD diagnosed me with polio and set things up for me to be hospitalized. How many of you have seen the photos of warehouse sized hospital wards with rows of patients in iron lungs? Polio was and remains terrifying in killing or crippling those afflicted. Mom loaded me up in the car and drove back to Oklahoma to her family’s Doc. Turns out I was misdiagnosed and “only” had a bad flu. My generation of children all had a polio vaccination scar on our left arm.

I have no idea if I have any residual immunity from that almost universal vaccination but I guess it is better than nothing.

39 posted on 09/02/2020 10:06:40 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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But vaccines are healthy and good and can’t cause any problems...


40 posted on 09/02/2020 10:27:41 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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