Miss-leading headline. It was known early on that people with certain existing conditions were more at risk of dying. But Covid pushed them over the edge.
My neighbors have been doing just fine for years - one with diabetes and one with a heart condition and overweight. But if they got Covid and died, don’t tell me that it was their diabetes that killed them.
Same would go for the flu. If they got the flu and died, it was the flu that put them over the edge.
so a person with cancer that breaks a leg and has surgery and can’t overcome recovery from surgery for broke leg....did they die of recovery of broken leg?
That is a brand new method of counting such deaths, and is extremely misleading for comparison to prior epidemics. Those rules were used to justify the lockdowns.
Yes, I think it kind of depends.
My husband had an employee who has basically quit now because of COVID. The prospect is grim.
He has cystic Fibrosis - and that is very deadly.
Last year, he was considered almost dead and needing lung transplant because of a collapsed lung. But they rectified it successfully.
Considering those 2 issues, if God forbid something really does happen to him, should we consider it COVID or was it really his underlying condition?
I know death certificates usually have 2 spaces to fill out, such as immediate cause and overall cause.
yea..its called end of life....
My neighbors have been doing just fine for years - one with diabetes and one with a heart condition and overweight. But if they got Covid and died, don’t tell me that it was their diabetes that killed them.
Same would go for the flu. If they got the flu and died, it was the flu that put them over the edge.
Yea, perhaps misleading. But do you think any of these people sub-coming to comorbidities with prior flu bugs would have caused the havoc we see today with shutting down the economy and the deaths turned into a political weapon? Why not this response in prior years? Nursing homes get cleaned out every year. Some years worse than others. Elderly people who are diseased do pass away. It's life. Why the hype this year? Why the dishonesty? Why can't the American people see through this?
Thanks for your post. A short paragraph of sanity in an ocean of know-nothing comments.
You/we are certainly in the minority here at good old FR, normally the land of the free and rational thinkers. I am a 98% with the FR viewpoint but they just don’t get it on this virus. It is worse than the flu and unless new vaccines and some treatment options are developed quickly we are going to lose at least 200,000 - 400,000 or so over the next year or two to this product of a Chinese Biological Weapons lab.
My view: Trump made the right call at every decision point. Stick with him and tell Joe Biden and company to keep wearing those masks even we all know they reall don’t do much good.
The significance is that if you don’t have a serious co-morbidity you could have gone to work, to ball games, to graduations, on vacations, etc.
Diabetes, heart condition, and obesity are not just fine. They are time bombs that compromise one's ability to withstand illness.
What COVID has really demonstrated in technicolor is that America has a very large unhealthy population. We are fat and sedentary, and are reaping the benefits from the diseases that come from those two things.
OK, I won't tell you that.
Except officially, the death certificate would not identify flu as the cause of death, but the most prevalent co-morbidity.
Read here: CDC director admits hospitals medical folks have perverse incentive to falsely count Covid deaths
You need to read through the entire article.
My neighbors have been doing just fine for years - one with diabetes and one with a heart condition and overweight. But if they got Covid and died, don’t tell me that it was their diabetes that killed them.
I’m sorry but you have it totally backwards. Without the co-morbidities, persons infected with influenza, measles, Covid etc would recover from these diseases without issue. It is because of the co-morbidities that they do not survive.
100% agreed.
Not entirely misleading. Somewhat misleading. More misleading than not?
I know of one person who has died “of COVID”. His symptoms were of a massive heart attack coming 10 years after a previous heart attack left with with a bit over 50% of his heart muscle and a prognosis of 5 more years of life.
Rushed to the hospital. Put on a ventilator. Tested for COVID. Positive, but had mentioned no symptoms to his wife nor had she seen any signs. Never regained consciousness. Death certificate says COVID killed him. Very likely a bad heart attack finished him off. Good guy, BTW.
But I agree that someone with bad diabetes who is 70 might well live for years, yet be finished off early by COVID - and that SHOULD be a COVID death. No one will ever know the truth. That would have required both honesty AND doing autopsies on all the dead. We had neither.
So the deaths from COVID are not what are reported, but neither are they “less than 10,000”.
Yeah, we get it.
“But if they got Covid and died, don’t tell me that it was their diabetes that killed them.”
Yes, we will. COVID is survivable. When you add in serious complications such as diabetes or heart failure don’t blame COVID.