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This Twist on Schrödinger’s Cat Paradox Has Major Implications for Quantum Theory
Scientific American ^ | August 17, 2020 | Zeeya Merali on

Posted on 08/17/2020 9:17:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Wigner sharpened the paradox by imagining a (human) friend of his shut in a lab, measuring a quantum system. He argued it was absurd to say his friend exists in a superposition of having seen and not seen a decay unless and until Wigner opens the lab door.

[Nora] Tischler and her colleagues have carried out a version of the Wigner’s friend test. By combining the classic thought experiment with another quantum head-scratcher called entanglement—a phenomenon that links particles across vast distances—they have also derived a new theorem, which they claim puts the strongest constraints yet on the fundamental nature of reality.

Until quantum physics came along in the 1920s, physicists expected their theories to be deterministic, generating predictions for the outcome of experiments with certainty. But quantum theory appears to be inherently probabilistic. The textbook version...says that until a system’s properties are measured, they can encompass myriad values. This superposition only collapses into a single state when the system is observed...

Today most physicists concur that inanimate objects can knock quantum systems out of superposition through a process known as decoherence. Certainly, researchers attempting to manipulate complex quantum superpositions in the lab can find their hard work destroyed by speedy air particles colliding with their systems. So they carry out their tests at ultracold temperatures and try to isolate their apparatuses from vibrations.

Several competing quantum interpretations have sprung up over the decades that employ less mystical mechanisms...to explain how superpositions break down without invoking consciousness...The most exotic is the “many worlds” view, which says that whenever you make a quantum measurement, reality fractures, creating parallel universes to accommodate every possible outcome. Thus, Wigner’s friend would split into two copies and, “with good enough supertechnology,” he could indeed measure that person to be in superposition from outside the lab...

(Excerpt) Read more at scientificamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: quantumtheory; schrdingerscat; schrodingerscat; schroedingerscat; stringtheory
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To: katnip

How the hell do you get cats to wear bib overalls?

CC


21 posted on 08/17/2020 11:34:46 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: BenLurkin

So this is how the Friends of Wigner began!


22 posted on 08/18/2020 2:59:38 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin

I feel that this is so important that it doesn’t matter at all.


23 posted on 08/18/2020 3:04:30 AM PDT by Richard Axtell (So, everything has gone to hell, what did I tell ya?)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Because they don’t like galluses or belts. Cats are eminently practical.


24 posted on 08/18/2020 3:04:50 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buacach!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Lots of nip.


25 posted on 08/18/2020 3:10:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: BenLurkin

Ever learning, but never coming to the truth. Send more money for sure. Otherwise my superposition at the institute will collapse and I will have to wait tables to eat.


26 posted on 08/18/2020 3:33:51 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: BenLurkin

27 posted on 08/18/2020 3:34:30 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Like the shirt and the bearer thereof.


28 posted on 08/18/2020 3:41:44 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, but will it pay the rent? There is something not quite scientific when physics and metaphysics are mingled.


29 posted on 08/18/2020 3:43:55 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: BenLurkin

A physicist knocked off his cat and now he’s going for his only friend?


30 posted on 08/18/2020 3:48:24 AM PDT by Starstruck
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To: BenLurkin
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31 posted on 08/18/2020 4:45:14 AM PDT by Prospero (Lex est rex)
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To: BenLurkin

Maschinenmensch is one of my favorite dancers. She knows how to superposition!


32 posted on 08/18/2020 4:51:41 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: dp0622

Biocentrism. Is a hot babe really a hot babe before somebody leers at her?

And why does beer have something to do with it?


33 posted on 08/18/2020 4:54:54 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: BenLurkin

The imaginary cat is EITHER alive OR dead. Alive and dead are mutually exclusive. A creature cannot be both at the same time. An observer may not know if the creature is alive or dead. That is not the same as the creature being both alive and dead at the same time.


34 posted on 08/18/2020 5:05:21 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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To: BenLurkin

Someday I’ll get around to watching that one.


35 posted on 08/18/2020 5:37:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: aquila48

“I think we have collapsed the superposition of this study - IT’S GRANTS!!”

Yeppers.

Soon, grants will flow for Global Cooling studies, too, as we enter a Grand Solar Minimum.


36 posted on 08/18/2020 6:27:10 AM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks BenLurkin. Take that, dog lovers! ;^)


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37 posted on 08/18/2020 6:45:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

How the hell do you get a cat to wear bib overalls?

It’s a Woodstock throwback. So many think calico is tiresome. It’s akin to Amish rebellion.


38 posted on 08/18/2020 6:46:01 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE (This response has been peer reviewed.)
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The Big Bang Theory 1x17 Schrodinger's cat (sub ita)

The Big Bang Theory 1x17 Schrodinger's cat (sub ita)

39 posted on 08/18/2020 6:53:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin

Scientific American actually publishing a hard science article!
Who knew?


40 posted on 08/18/2020 6:56:12 AM PDT by Reily
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