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To: woodpusher; CJ Wolf
Their child is an alien at birth and is also, at birth, granted U.S. citizenship under USC 8...

Consider the state of the child at birth.
The child is born and for a split second its status as an alien is inherent until further action is taken.
The very moment after that split second, their birth citizenship is granted via USC 8 with no naturalization process being necessary like it would be with an adult or child immigrating, thus changing its status from what it was previously.

Presto Chango! One alien child converted into a U.S citizen simply because they were born on U.S soil and because of existing legislation.

33 posted on 08/13/2020 4:45:14 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Consider the state of the child at birth.

The child is born and for a split second its status as an alien is inherent until further action is taken.

Consider the actual law, not make believe bullshit.

Every child born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, is born a citizen of the United States. There is no split second involved.

37 posted on 08/13/2020 5:11:58 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: philman_36
Their child is an alien at birth and is also, at birth, granted U.S. citizenship under USC 8...

And you are just spewing crap. Cite and quote the provision of 8 U.S.C. which states that ridiculous nonsense.

Citizenship at birth of those born within the territory and jurisdiction of the United States is controlled by the Constitution, Amendment 14. Statute laws conform to and implement the constitutional provision in Amendment 14 which states that all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. Such persons are born as citizens and are not eligible for naturalization. A citizen cannot be naturalized and transformed into a citizen.

alien. Someone who resides within the borders of a countyry but is not a citizen or subject of that country; a person not owing allegiance to a particulazr contry. • In the United States, an alien is a person who was born outside the jurisdiction of the United States, who is subject to some foreign government, and who has not been naturalized under U.S. law.

Black's Law Dictionary, 11th ed.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

[...]

The child is born and for a split second its status as an alien is inherent until further action is taken.

The child is a U.S. citizen at birth. Amendment 14. Cite the Amendment 14 or 8 U.S. Code provision about the split second.

The very moment after that split second, their birth citizenship is granted via USC 8 with no naturalization process being necessary like it would be with an adult or child immigrating, thus changing its status from what it was previously.

Cite and quote the imaginary part of 8 U.S.C. to which you refer.

Presto Chango! One alien child converted into a U.S citizen simply because they were born on U.S soil and because of existing legislation.

Imaginary birther legislation does not count. Only the real kind, that can be linked, cited and quoted counts.

Your imaginary crap only exists in your birther world. Trying that crap in court has gone 0-226 and led to sanctions for frivolous filing.

48 posted on 08/14/2020 6:01:17 AM PDT by woodpusher
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