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THE COMING "CONTINGENT" ELECTION AND PELOSI PRESIDENCY
VANITY | 8/5/2020 | windhover

Posted on 08/05/2020 2:57:14 PM PDT by windhover

Could Nancy Pelosi become our next President on January 20. Impossible? Not according to Article Two, Sec.1, Clause 3 as modified by the 12th Amendment of the Constitution.


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KEYWORDS: ballot; certification; contingent; election; forumabuse
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To: jonascord

Had I ever been among the ones boast posting, that would actually make sense.


81 posted on 08/06/2020 2:14:58 AM PDT by jazminerose (Vince Foster died of coronavirus.)
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To: ml/nj

So you’re saying then that there would be no president?


82 posted on 08/06/2020 4:17:42 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: jazminerose
Hate to say your right ...

I've been here on FR for 22 years. Waiting for "Go" time. In that 22 years I've had four major lower back surgeries, two "minor" heart attacks and three mini strokes (those since January of this year.

I'm old, slow, cannot run any longer and thanks to diminished lung capacity (no, I'm not a smoker, never have been) I get winded easily.

I'm still a damn' good shot though. Out shot my LEO son a few days ago at the gun range. I'd make a half-way decent sniper until I get taken out myself. All I ask at my age and "abilities" is for Go time to happen while I'm still alive. My generation should've done it long ago and our time is slipping away. Lord knows the next generation is incapable of fighting.

83 posted on 08/06/2020 5:45:08 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: windhover

Winner take all is a funny, if not unconstitutional, law. If Trump takes the popular vote then Kali, NY, etc., all have to give their votes to Trump. Of course, they’re going to run to the courts to stop the very law they demanded to be enacted.


84 posted on 08/06/2020 6:05:26 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: skimbell

They mean the same. HR is “House of Representatives”, while “Congress” means same thing.


85 posted on 08/06/2020 9:36:19 AM PDT by windhover (windhover I caught this morning mornings Minion, Kingdom of daylight's Dauphin.)
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To: windhover
That's what I'm referring to.

The House of Representatives is not Congress.

That paragraph makes NO sense using your terminology.

86 posted on 08/06/2020 10:53:36 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: windhover
That’s the normal process; but if the mail-in ballots can’t be counted and certified by the states in time, Electors cant be chosen by January 20th.

Here is what you are missing in your analysis.

The irony is that if the Democrats plan to create electoral chaos with their mail-in ballot scheme to overwhelm the post office and election vote counters, it will only harm the House and not the President or the Senate.

Since the entire House is up for reelection, there will be no House on January 3 to select a Speaker. More likely, the Republican states that do not use mail-in ballots will have ordinary elections and send their Representative to the House; they will not be affected by counting delays. It will be the Democrat states that can't count and certify their elections that will leave vacancies in the House. The Republican majority of those present will choose their Speaker.

In the Senate, only one-third of the seats are up for election. If those same blue states can't certify a Senator, the governor MUST appoint a replacement to fill the vacancy because Article V requires "equal suffrage in the Senate."

As for the President, the 12th amendment says "The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed." Blue states that cannot certify their Electors will not count towards the 270 to win. If 20 EV Illinois cannot count their votes, then the threshold drops to 260 to win, and so on with the other blue states. This will motivate blue state legislatures to hold special sessions to appoint their Electors directly, so that the President will be selected without issue.

So the Democrats will be giving up the House, but nothing else, if they follow this tactic. Furthermore, once they do get their counts certified and their Representatives sworn in, if they do finally attain a majority the Speaker still controls the agenda and may try to block a new caucus vote. Just because Democrats eventually retake the majority doesn't necessarily give them to power to immediately replace a Republican Speaker.

-PJ

87 posted on 08/06/2020 11:08:07 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: skimbell

You are right. Congress is the bicameral legislative body of the United States including the Senate and the House of Representatives. My apologies. I should have been more careful.Thanks for your reply.


88 posted on 08/06/2020 4:50:50 PM PDT by windhover (windhover I caught this morning mornings Minion, Kingdom of daylight's Dauphin.)
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To: usconservative

The millennials are just an enormous blunder. Unfortunately, they already outnumber Boomers. All but a few of our precious WWII hero’s are still with us The good news is that the Over 50 crowd is our most reliable voting bloc. Kids are easily distracted by video games and weed. Now we have to add in this horrible K2 stuff.

I am thinkIng you are a veteran. (The tip off is the high level of firearms skills). If so, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Few things enrage me more than gifting homeless, jihadis, and illegals with our money and now real estate when we have VETERANS on the streets, many struggling with PTSD, some self-medicating.Twenty-two veterans per month eating their guns or using other methods to end their young lives is unconscionable. This should *never* have been tolerated. This is on Democrat’s, Republicans, and us. President Trump appears the first to show some interest in change.

What a round about way to suggest that the sharpness of your shooting skills remains stored in muscle memory. The reason we can remember exactly what happened on Prom Night but forget what we had for lunch yesterday is a function memory vs storage. Your long term memories were moved to the storage part of your brain. Forgetting recent events is a true memory problem. Your recollection of the event didn’t make it into storage in its original state.

So memory loss with age is not a memory problem, it’s a storage problem.


89 posted on 08/07/2020 7:01:47 AM PDT by jazminerose (Vince Foster died of coronavirus.)
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To: jazminerose
Thanks for your post. I'm not a Veteran, I was unable to serve due to having strabismus in my right eye which after several eye muscle operations left me with straight eyes but still a slight double vision.

My dad, all his brothers, grandfather, great grandfather and great uncles all have military histories covering the Army, Navy, USMC and in the "old" country of Austria.

My weapons proficiency comes from growing up in a home filled with firearms and being taught respect for weapons. My LEO son pushes me to stay sharp these days.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: my "disappointment" (for lack of a better word) with my own generation is we haven't taken matters into our own hands and fixed the problems in the District of Corruption ourselves. I'll stop there lest my comment get deleted.

In closing, my swiss cheese memory isn't just caused by age. I had to undergo an EEG a few weeks ago due to the mini strokes I've had and it shows that my pain centers in my brain are "lit up" big time due to all the nerve pain I deal with daily. The cause of my swiss cheese memory is in part due to age, the severity of it is due primarily due to the amount of pain I'm in daily and my brain attempting to deal with it at the expense of other things (memory, physical coordination, patience, logic & reasoning skills all suffering because of it.) I also have Ischemic Brain Disease and am seeing a specialist at the University of Illinois hospital for it. With all this, I still work full-time as a Senior Systems Architect for a large bank averaging 50-60 hours a week.

In short, I deal with "a lot of sh*t" that most people don't have to and some days it's all I can do to keep a lid on the frustration I feel as a result. Not looking for sympathy here, we all have crap we have to deal with especially these days. I for one wouldn't trade places with a parent having to school their young children @ home through this pandemic while trying to maintain a job and income. They have it far worse than I do, IMO.

90 posted on 08/07/2020 7:42:00 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
I think it’s awesome that you’re working. It can be so healthy sometimes. It was not until just yesterday that I found out there are YouTube channels devoted exclusively to Boomer hate. I know millennials hate us because we wrecked everything, but, I didn’t see the level of savagery. We ridicule snowflakes because they are designed for it. But, we never descend to that kind of visceral hatred. They don’t think they thought this one all the way through. How would they be here without any Boomers? Your multiple morbidities made me think of theraputic ketamine. It’s working very well on neuropathic pain. You have probably had way too many people try to shove some off the wall cure or another, so I will just leave you with a link to a clinic in which I have; 💯 trust. https://revitalistclinic.com/
91 posted on 08/08/2020 9:50:58 AM PDT by jazminerose (Vince Foster died of coronavirus.)
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To: jazminerose
I've been investigating Ketamine. My insurance won't cover it (figures, right?) so I'd have to pay for it myself.

These snowflakes just piss me off. A few years ago one of them had the nerve to say to me "get out of my way old man, you're in my way" at work.

He thinks he's smart enough to do what I do and know as much as I do about the bank's systems. I'm not in his way anymore, he got fired shortly before his probationary hire period was up. Apparently he pissed everyone off. :-)

92 posted on 08/08/2020 1:00:20 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: windhover

20 years ago when it was between gore and bush that there was problems certifying an election the speaker could step in and there would of been problems with up set voters and politicians but there would of still been a peaceful transfer of power despite everything. today there is such a divide and mistrust that it would get violent and the military would have to step in.


93 posted on 08/08/2020 1:11:25 PM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: usconservative

Help is on the way re ketamine. Treating neuropathy is still currently an off-label use, but, the synthetic ketamine, Esketamine is moving down the track.

Ketamine has been around so long (1960s) that the patent expired long ago. There is no incentive to bring it to market now.

The Esketamine nasal spray was slammed through on the fast track through the FDA last year as an “Emergency Drug” due to its efficacy in suicide prevention. (God bless the Trump administration). Antidepressants can take as long as 4-6 weeks to work, *if* they’re going to work at all. Sometimes you have to do a trial and error thing.

Nobody has that luxury with actively suicidal patients. Ketamine works in *hours*, not weeks.

The IV version will follow and insurance won’t be able to get out of paying.

Ketamine saved me about five more years of trauma therapy, but, I’m told my case is unusual. Most people don’t get super chatty like I do, nor do they have clear, sharp recall decades old events. I chose to have a therapist sit with me for two hour sessions which jacked the price by an extra $200. But, I was able to pull maximum benefit out of the sessions.

Funny thing, I initially decided to try it for neuropathic itching. I would actually swap that for pain, I think.

There was a veteran treating at the clinic who had lost an arm. He was being treated for pain from phantom limb syndrome. How fascinating is that?


94 posted on 08/09/2020 4:31:45 AM PDT by jazminerose (Vince Foster died of coronavirus.)
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To: windhover

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95 posted on 08/23/2020 12:58:26 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: Political Junkie Too

Ya but also we all have seen how grievance politics works. the Democrats in the House will claim that their role has been usurped by Republicans in the red states, Republicans in the House, and Republicans in the Senate all conspiring to defraud minorities of their representation to decide the incoming President. The MSM media will gladly cover the bleating Democrats as well as BLM leaders and other liberal voices. The Democrat cities will burn more. More Antifa will show up in smaller towns in flyover country. Basically, in this scenario, a de facto civil war will start around January 4.

There will be a power struggle in the beltway. Pelosi’s speakership will be extended due to unforseen extraordinary circumstances not covered in the Constitution and caused by Republican racism. The armed forces leaders, having a choice of who to follow, could in theory split as happend in 1861 after Fort Sumter.

etc.


96 posted on 08/23/2020 1:07:24 AM PDT by SteveH
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