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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Today's churches have little to no philosophical grounding. Men want to know "why" - and churches today answer in words only women hear and respond to: "Because Jesus loves us soooo much!"

Well, OK...but why? :)

Then the music starts and the lyrics sound like thirteen-year-old girls in their bedroom talking about the cute boy Jesus down the street. I seem to remember hymns - where did they all go?

My stepson is a pastor trying to reinvigorate an older, dying church by appealing to new, younger members. He is a great speaker and people come just to hear him. But I struggle to make any theological/philosophical sense out of his sermons, which sometimes offer good advice but on a Dr. Phil level.

10 posted on 08/03/2020 1:20:55 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Yeah, not a fan of Praise music, or even modern “hymns” as put out by Keith and Krystin Getty, and many others.

Give me an old fashioned hymn anyday.


25 posted on 08/03/2020 1:35:19 PM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Today's churches have little to no philosophical grounding. Men want to know "why" - and churches today answer in words only women hear and respond to: "Because Jesus loves us soooo much!"

You have a point. When I hear the pastor use phrases like ‘racial inequality,’ I immediately think of solutions based rejoinders like, ‘personal responsibility,’ instead, the sermon devolves into ‘white guilt’ bromides ... and completely loses me.

And this is a fairly conservative church that has recently been highly influenced by Tim Keller.

42 posted on 08/03/2020 2:07:36 PM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Part of the problem is there is no Hell. Too many sermons and homilies are constructed around “Be nice.”


44 posted on 08/03/2020 2:11:29 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe too)
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