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To: chimera; OftheOhio; generally
OfTheOhio, I don't think you'll find any DU trolls or traitors to the US that have contributed a $1000 or more to FreeRepublic, as I have. I suggest you choose your insults more carefully, and only with proof, if you should have any.

Chimera, with your confirmation of thinness of the various materials, it's plain enough to see that the LEM was inadequately shielded to protect any occupants against the solar flare radiation that was known to have occurred during the time of Apollo 11, for example. To say that neither their suits nor the LEM was sufficiently shielded is a deadly understatement.

The Orion design uses the equivalent of 6' of lead shielding and NASA scientists are convinced they need to perform significant testing and measurement before they'd be confident enough to put humans into it for Van Allen Belt (VAB) transits! If NASA scientists had the actual experience of a metal beverage-can thicknesses of aluminum, mylar, titanium or aluminized kapton blanket material that successfully got 14 astronauts safely traversing the VABs, we could be assured the equivalent of 6' of lead on the Orion would surely "do the trick," as well... but no one has such actual assurance.

As another matter, the lunar PLSS suits' materials and battery power were inadequate to heat and cool for the surface temperature differentials (-140F to 250F) for the full length of their extra-vehicular activities (EVAs). (Yet never once was there any mention--let alone complaint--of their suits' abilities to heat-then-cool-then-heat, corresponding to the counterpoint of shadows and sunshine, or that the astronauts themselves ever felt the least bit uncomfortable, cold or hot, throughout their claimed EVAs.)

Don't forget! This had never been attempted before and inherently could not have been fully tested in an Earth-based mock-up! Yet they risked two people's lives at a distance of 238k miles, with no second chances or rescue team? There is some evidence President Nixon wasn't willing to let that happen on live television, despite his earnest desire for a space technological coup over the Soviets.

A technical writer that worked at Rocketdyne and who claimed he had inside knowledge of the government's intent to fake the Moon landings, wrote in his book about it, "having seen hundreds of rocket firings when I was employed by Rocketdyne, I know the jet of the lunar lander would have created an enormous crater." Most of the Apollo photos show little or no discernible blast crater or clearing under the Lander that would have been created on final descent.

The same writer also said the 10,000lb thrust rocket engine would have created a deafening 140db roar. That would have been damped in the vacuum of space, of course, but because the astronauts were ostensibly mechanically attached to the vibrations from that engine, dampened only by seat cushions and suits, there should have been at least 70-100db noise for an astronaut's to overcome inside their air-filled helmets while using their microphones to speak to mission control on final descent. The recordings, however, exhibit no discernible engine noise whatsoever.

Although dust should have been blown "six ways from Sunday and would have landed dust everywhere," we see very clear official photos of landing pod feet that are pristine, show not a speck of dust at all.

The regolith beneath Apollo 11's engine exhaust doesn't even show evidence of any disturbance, let alone having 10,000lb of rocket engine-sourced thrust directed at it mere hours before:

The wholly inadequate craftsmanship (post #15 at right) of the LEM, however, bespeaks nothing but affirmation of the hoax. With roughly $250+B (today's dollars) for NASA budgets in the 1960s, and in context of the other aspects of hoax, this would be worthy only of OftheOhio's preliminary mock-ups, not something able to withstand the rigors of space travel to the moon. (Consider the inferior craftsmanship at the apex, ostensibly from the lunar surface, photo, AS11-40-5924:)

Chimera, I believe you're incorrect to suggest Gemini 10, with its maximum altitude of 412.4 miles did anything more than expose Young and Collins to some lesser effects of radiation, even via the VAB thinner South Atlantic Anomaly (SAA), or at least that it's a fair comparison to the rest of the VABs that Apollo flights would have had to transit. The Van Allen Belts are understood to exist between about 1000 to 25,000 miles above the earth (momentarily ignoring the SAA 120mi dip):

Your characterization of Van Allen Belt transit being "quite brief" is mistaken as well. It would have taken the largest part of an hour to get through the VABs even at the fastest speed any Apollo craft is known to have traveled.

In a famous, supposedly embarrassing interview of Apollo 12 Astronaut Alan Bean, he sounds very honest as he says he's not sure they went out far enough to encounter the VABs. All Apollo astronauts that would have spent most of an hour in the VABs (each way) and more than a day unshielded from solar radiation in lunar transit and at the moon would certainly have suffered radiation poisoning if they had not died thereof. (There is no area within the Lunar Module that could have effectively shielded astronauts from solar radiation.) That no astronaut suffered any ill effects from radiation is a 50' red flag, recognizable by most thoughtful people. Frankly, it's almost certain all of them would have died had they actually attempted to go to the moon. But as Alan Bean implicitly indicated, neither he nor any of the other astronauts--nor Apollo 13 The Movie's Tom "Rockefeller" Hanks--actually went beyond Low Earth Orbit.

Hoax confirmed (video).

None of that is to say that moon landings aren't real. They are. Man has been to the moon and goes there regularly. These travels have not been under the Apollo or NASA projects (generally), however.

I believe PDJT has been moving the authority for these moon traversals under the new military branch of Space Force. I believe he is assuring--just as he's done to move Federal Reserve activities to the US Treasury Department, that what previously has been heavily influenced by (partly to keep it secret if not to themselves) the Deep State should redound to the benefit Of the People, By the People and For the People.

Nothing can stop what is coming in this category. It will be biblical. And the Space Force is only part of it!

22 posted on 08/07/2020 3:14:35 PM PDT by rx (Truth will out!)
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To: rx
The VAB hoaxer issue has been debunked ad infinitum, as it is well-known that the most intense VAB zone (the inner belt) was avoided by trajectory planning. The less-intense outer belt was not a significant safety issue as total exposure time in that region was about six hours (going out and coming back combined). The VAB zones are primarily protons (inner belt) and electrons (outer belt). The electrons can produce build-up effects so the CM (where the crew was during VAB transit) had lighter-weight graded shielding which is effective against electrons while avoiding significant build-up. It is a common mistake among first-year engineering students to assume that lead is the only effective shield for all types of radiation. It works well where the interactions are primarily with the Coulomb potential, but is less effective where secondary effects (e.g., bremsstrahlung) become significant.
23 posted on 08/07/2020 5:24:26 PM PDT by chimera
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To: rx

A TR3B will take you to the moon for lunch on the dark side and be back for dinner in the US.
Of course I’m a conspiracy theorist,....(and proud of it)


29 posted on 08/12/2020 6:12:57 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic home of free because of the Brave)
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