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To: Chickensoup

Kipling was a bit of a Germanophobe, perhaps in part because his son was killed in 1915 at the tender age of 18, during WWI, in action against Germany. He released this poem in 1917:


The Beginnings
Rudyard Kipling

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late
With long arrears to make good,
When the English began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy-willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the English began to hate.

Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the English began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred,
It will not swiftly abate,
Through the chill years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the English began to hate.


To the extent that the Brits hated the Huns, it was fairly mild relative to the sentiment that the Germans expressed through their actions, via the extermination of millions of Jews, gypsies and Slavs. Frankly, it was downright moderate, given that an eye for an eye vengeance, with the usual add-on for losing the war, would have seen the German population erased from the earth.


7 posted on 07/19/2020 2:54:22 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The Germans and th Japanese should both thank their gods that they were defeated by Christian nations, although I do remember a quote from an American Navy man saying that when he was finished the only place they would speak Japanese is in hell.


12 posted on 07/19/2020 3:34:03 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: Zhang Fei

I read a book in either high school or early college on the occupation of Germany by the victorious allies. The urge for revenge was strong among the powers. No surprise the Russians were the worst in the depredations against civilian Germans. The French were next barbarity if I remember this right, the French willfully starved 1 million Germans. The British were an order of magnitude down from the French but surprisingly brutal. We were a lot tougher\brutal (but again another order of magnitude down from the British) then we probably would like to remember.

Just another example of “War is Hell” brings out the best & the worst in all.


17 posted on 07/19/2020 3:47:29 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Zhang Fei

FYI. Brits weren’t very keen on taking German prisioners during WWII. Many Germans were shot trying to surrender to the Brits. The situation was not quite as extreme as it was with the Marines and Japanese in the Pacific.
Germans did not want to surrender to the Russians or the Brits if they could surrender to the US instead.


43 posted on 07/20/2020 8:36:48 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buacach!)
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