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To: Red Badger

Too expensive by 7500.

They should be looking at ‘less is more’ and providing a model that minimizes the computerization.

And they better have a manual transmission option. Should also come with towing package standard.

30K is too much for a car. Period. It’s the barrier. 60K is idiotic.

Unless they come down in price, it’s going to be a used Tacoma next. Rock solid trucks and they run forever.

I’ve got a Scion xB right now (less is more) manual transmission. Zero (0) troubles.

Was NEVER a Toyota guy.

They need an entry level truck to compete with Tacoma. F150 is too expensive.


14 posted on 07/14/2020 5:51:58 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

I agree, go back to the basics and more affordable.

Fools will gladly pay 30 to 60k for the new toy.

I would pay for a frame off restored classic first for that kind of money.


18 posted on 07/14/2020 5:54:43 AM PDT by wally_bert (Transmission tone, Selma.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I don’t think we will ever see “less computerization” of cars anytime soon, especially when millennials will be demanding 12” LCD Displays in their cars and more gizmos that break after the 3 year factory warranty.

These cars are going to be super expensive to maintain after year 5 ish, just because all of that electronic crap will fail and finding replacements will be impossible


27 posted on 07/14/2020 5:58:50 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: RinaseaofDs

Tacoma’s are awesome rugged trucks.


47 posted on 07/14/2020 6:19:25 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
They should be looking at ‘less is more’ and providing a model that minimizes the computerization.

Safety regs and CAFE standards make that impossible.
62 posted on 07/14/2020 6:48:52 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: RinaseaofDs

FYI, I have had three Tacoma’s.

1988, 1999 & 2012

The 88 was $11K brand new. 2.4 liter 4 cyl. Probably still running somewhere like Afghanistan. These were the trucks where all the beds rusted out.

The 1999 was $22K brand new. These were the Tacoma’s that were part of the 800K buy out because of the rusted frames. I sold mine back to Toyota in 2012 for Kelly Blue Book Full Retail x 1.5(14K for a 13 year old truck).

The 2012 was $30K. I still have. It was just recalled for frame inspection. It was fine, so they undercoated the frame for free. Some 2011’s are having the frames replaced.

I would not buy a 2015-2020. They are having major transmission problems with these trucks after the redesign in 2015. They are not recommended by Consumer Reports now just because of that. Also, they are so close in price now to a Tundra. I would buy a Tundra.

Toyota stopped making the FJ Cruiser. They were the used vehicle that had the best resale value of ANY automobile made. They just never sold very well. Although they were better than other vehicles in the same class. When I bought my 2012 Tacoma, they had about 25 Tacoma’s on the lot. They had ONE FJ Cruiser. I think they should have called it the Landcruiser I(like they were in the 1960’s-1970’s) Of course, they came with GM V8 engines back then.


65 posted on 07/14/2020 7:03:29 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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