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German Medical Research Paper: Does zinc supplementation enhance the clinical efficacy of chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine to win today's battle against COVID-19?
Science Direct ^ | 07/06/2020 | R.Derwanda, M.Scholzb

Posted on 07/07/2020 8:53:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/07/2020 8:53:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Mrs. Don-o; tellw

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2 posted on 07/07/2020 8:53:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Using HCQ without zinc is like trying to fire a gun without bullets.


3 posted on 07/07/2020 8:54:43 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Therefore, CQ/HCQ in combination with zinc should be considered as additional study arm for COVID-19 clinical trials.

Only if they want to run an honest test that isn't rigged to show the HCQ isn't effective. To date that's been the agenda so nobody's studied the actual protocol that has been used to great effect.

The approach of the scientists to date has been akin to saying 'we hear that people say taking aspirin with a glass of water helps their headaches but we studied the effect of water on headaches and found no impact.'

4 posted on 07/07/2020 8:57:34 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: dirtboy

RE: Using HCQ without zinc is like trying to fire a gun without bullets.

Are there other “guns” out there that we can use without having to ask doctors for prescription?


5 posted on 07/07/2020 8:58:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy is late to the party.

The NYU Grossman School of Medicine study on the HCQ/Zinc/Azithromycin combination has already validated the HCQ as zinc ionophore hypothesis - 44% reduction in risk of death, 84% reduction in hospitalization.

If Debbie Birx was on board with all this we wouldn’t be listening to her bleating about wearing the mask, the whole thing would basically be over with.


6 posted on 07/07/2020 9:03:41 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: SeekAndFind

I always look for Odds Ratio or Hazard Ratio in studies. Didn’t see any.


7 posted on 07/07/2020 9:03:42 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Regulator

RE: This guy is late to the party.

Better late than never. Also, better another scientific confirmation from another study in another country than none at all.


8 posted on 07/07/2020 9:04:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And there ya go. Most, if not all of the ‘failed’ studies only had the one arm...hydroxycholoroquine and placebo. None of those had arms adding the antibiotic and/or zinc combinations.


9 posted on 07/07/2020 9:12:33 AM PDT by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: SeekAndFind; MinuteGal

Isn’t this settled science?

Why are scientists and doctors treading over the same ground three and four times?

This stuff WORKS!!! That’s what I was led to believe three weeks into the “crisis.”

Right after election day, all restrictions and requirements pertaining to COVID-19 will be lifted.

It’ll be a MIRACLE!!!


10 posted on 07/07/2020 9:17:29 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler ("NUTS!!!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Quercitin


11 posted on 07/07/2020 9:18:08 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Father in Heaven, I trust in Your love.)
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To: dirtboy

Zinc supplementation in and of itself has a direct effect on ALL coronavirus variants. ZICAM and Air-Borne over the counter “cold fighters” both contain levels of zinc in the 5-10 mg per dose, and these are claimed to be effective against prolonged colds. A number of other substances also pry open the receptors on the coronavirus molecule, and allow zinc to enter the nucleus of the virus, incapacitating its ability to reproduce.

Vitamins C and D have this capability, as well as caffeine.


12 posted on 07/07/2020 9:22:42 AM PDT by alloysteel (Freedom is not a matter of life and death. It is much more serious than that..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks, SeekAndFind. Just what the doctor ordered!


13 posted on 07/07/2020 9:29:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Indeed, Lover of the Peoples, all the Holy ones are in Your hand." - Deuteronomy 33:3)
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CQ and HCQ are now recommended for treatment of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in a growing number of countries and FDA just granted emergency authorisation for both.

Say what? This article is dated today but the FDA emergency authorization was done March 28th and revoked almost a month ago.

14 posted on 07/07/2020 9:43:41 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: SeekAndFind
Quercetin and EGCG are both nutrition-based ionophores for zinc.

You can get them in supplements or in your food. Best absorption is probably with food, best control over dosage is with supplements.

Food sources: EGCG, nothing better than Green Tea. I make ice cubes out of Green Tea every day, and put 'em in every, every, everything I drink. You can also use Green Tea powder (Matcha). Other teas, like regular Lipton etc., to a certain extent.

Food sources for Quercetin: #1 way above all others is capers (yes, those tiny salty sour green bud things) or caper-BERRIES, same plant but the berries rather than the buds. You only need a bit. Three tiny capers used as condiment for one smoked oyster (for zinc) on crackers, and you've practically got it made.

Many other sources of quercetin, but you'd have to eat greater volumes: onions and all members of the allium family (garlic, shallots, chives, leeks).

Most deep-purple berries (elderberries par excellence, also blackberries, blueberries, deep blue grapes and juice.)

Apple (skins), kale, cocoa powder!

15 posted on 07/07/2020 9:44:26 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Indeed, Lover of the Peoples, all the Holy ones are in Your hand." - Deuteronomy 33:3)
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To: SeekAndFind

You have to get all the way to the last 2 sentences of this word wall study to find the answer: no use unless part of a “ clinical study”

Which is endless
Or just chuck it and go to a country with a low death rate which is already using it, early


16 posted on 07/07/2020 9:51:16 AM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have heard doctors say quinine (and Zinc) is effective In the absence of Hydroxychloroquine. Have others heard this?


17 posted on 07/07/2020 9:53:26 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Thank you for that fascinating information. Are you saying that three capers on a single oyster from a can of smoked oysters will give you protection from Covid19?

I happen to like both oysters and capers.


18 posted on 07/07/2020 9:55:51 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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Using HCQ without zinc is like trying to fire a gun without bullets.

Odd, then, that the Henry Ford trial had such dramatic results without zinc.

19 posted on 07/07/2020 10:07:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: SeekAndFind
BHT suppliments - fairly cheap from Amazon. Very strong against lipid-coated viruses, useless against anything else.
20 posted on 07/07/2020 10:12:16 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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