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To: bigbob

I hope you are being sarcastic. Several problems:

1. Mail gets stolen, lost, misdelivered, to addresses where the people have moved out, etcetc.

2. No way to check whether the person sending it in is the person who it was supposed to go to.

3. No way to check whether the person sending it in is a citizen and eligilibe to vote, especially in Demshevik states. Or is alive, or has only voted once, etc.

4. Easy for mail openers to throw away and replace with nice new shiny ballots.

5. China may have printed up pre-filled out ballots as suggested by Trump and Q.

These are only a few reasons, I can think of more if I try. The problem is not just the unreliability of the USPS, that’s just the first layer.


541 posted on 07/01/2020 2:25:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: little jeremiah

I really wasn’t trying to be sarcastis. And I wasn’t specifically talking about “paper mail” either, but I realize it wasn’t clear as I mixed up 2020 with what I was really focused on.

I’m an engineer. Engineers design solutions to problems based on a set of requirements. What I was trying to say is, if a set of requirements was developed (which would address each of the concerns you listed and more) and that solution was “peer reviewed” to the hilt and put out for bid to the industry that develops government IT solutions (i.e. NOT the dopes who did the Obamacare website), I think you could have a secure 21st century voting system that would be highly protected against fraud and would ensure that every vote comes from a real, qualified, registered, live voter. And only one vote per customer! I would describe it more as an “next generating voting system” where if actual mailed-in paper ballots were part of it, they would have have to be authenticated in the same way as online votes would be. The other systems I listed are quite capable of identifying each of us, because it was a requirement of their design that they do so.

I’ve done work in the past in USPS facilities, which one colleague described as “the most cheerless place” he’d ever seen. So I know a little about why just doing “mail-in voting” like the Democraps want would be a disaster. I’m not suggesting that the USPS be used, except maybe as one of multiple input mechanisms that would still be subject to authentication and validation.

We designed systems to put man on the moon, rovers on Mars, and networks of completely reliable and secure communicatons - we can do this if we want to. But probably not before November unless a lot of work has been going on we don’t know about. So the only thing for 2020 is to stop the Democraps from pushing through a system that will be ripe for fraud and abuse and I trust President Trump has a way in mind to do this.


563 posted on 07/01/2020 3:13:03 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: little jeremiah

Just to add to the concerns, I went to the mailbox yesterday to get my mail. Stuffed way down at the bottom was bunched up mail (in addition to the new mail sitting on top of the bunched up). When I managed to pull it out, one could tell it had gotten wet and everything dried together. I pried the bunch apart and found my water bill from October 2019 and a receipt for some roofing materials from September 2019! I KNOW that the mailbox was empty the previous day!


673 posted on 07/01/2020 6:45:06 PM PDT by GYPSY286
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