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To: DiogenesLamp
"A lot of people may be unaware, but just after the war, white people were not allowed to vote. Only newly freed slaves were permitted to vote, and they ended up creating entirely\mostly black legislatures\congressional representatives in the occupied states."

I have never heard of this. I am not aware of any race based voting laws since the 14th and 15th ammendment until the Democrats took over at the end of the 19th century. Can you please point me to a source that verifies that claim?

"The problem with these legislatures was not that they were black, but that they lacked knowledge of what a legislature was and how it was supposed to act in creating laws. The Reps and Senators simply did what Washington DC told them to do.

Dates? Names? Locations?

"These legislatures became an embarrassment for Washington DC, and they quietly restored voting rights to the white population, and you never hear anything about this in any of the history books. I only know of this because I used to have an old history book that covered it."

What history book do you have?

"The Government was doing everything it could to force Republicans on the people of the South, and the people of the South were doing everything they could to stop it, including intimidation, terrorism and murder."

I don't think the south has ever been politically homogenous. There were plenty of former whigs in the South that would ultimately join the Republican party. My own family history that I have documentation for indicates they were whigs who were unionists before the war, but fought on the side of NC once the war began. When the conflict was over they became Republicans. I have read similar accounts of others from NC, some of whom went on the hold politcal office. I would like to see whatever verificaiton you could offer for what you suggest.

"Republicans would simply hurt them more than they had already been hurt."

I am aware of the Democrats hurting black freemen. Who were the Republicans hurting?

I am under the impression that here in NC, the Democrat North Carolinians would target (with both violence and slander) black North Carolinians specifically, as opposed to Republicans in general who were overwhelmingly white. My own family, who were whigs before the war and republicans after, were still left out of the general amnesty. I am not sure how that fits into the dynamics you are describing, but I am looking forward to hearing what you have to say.

45 posted on 06/23/2020 6:26:09 PM PDT by OHelix
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To: OHelix; wardaddy; Pelham; rustbucket; woodpusher; PeaRidge
I have never heard of this. I am not aware of any race based voting laws since the 14th and 15th ammendment until the Democrats took over at the end of the 19th century. Can you please point me to a source that verifies that claim?

I have discussed this topic before, and I have in the past endeavored to find supporting sources for this point, but I have learned from past searches that it is extremely difficult to find this information because it is horribly embarrassing to historians and many people would consider it racist to point this out.

I only know of it because I read it in a history book I had many years ago. I will look around and see if I can find something to show that this is true, but as I've said, past searches were difficult.

Perhaps some others might be able to help on this point? I'll ping a few.

Guys, the point being discussed is that period after the war in which whites were disenfranchised and only blacks could vote, and which resulted in mostly black congressmen and legislators being elected.

I read in a history book years ago that entire legislatures were comprised of black legislators, and that they didn't know what they were doing and consequently embarrassed Washington DC with their ineptitude.

Do any of you recall a source for this information?

46 posted on 06/24/2020 9:08:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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