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1 posted on 06/20/2020 6:25:54 AM PDT by loucon
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The death rate for the whole country is still approx 1 in 30,000.


2 posted on 06/20/2020 6:32:32 AM PDT by lurk
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No. Herd immunity would be over 50% and not just 0.55%.


3 posted on 06/20/2020 6:35:23 AM PDT by nwrep
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Shows for the most part, northern states doing better than southern states.

More air conditioning drying out the air indoors?


7 posted on 06/20/2020 6:51:08 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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A month ago posters here were b*tching that the states opening up were having better new-cases performance. After allowing these openings to take effect we find that the exact opposite is true, that the states which opened up early are have a much bigger rise in new cases percapita than slower-opening states.

It shows that there are far too many people who think that, just because the law allows a person to do something that he should do it.

False. Stay home when you can. If you can’t stay home then wear a mask in public, and practice social distancing.


10 posted on 06/20/2020 6:58:22 AM PDT by nagant
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I’ve read about the idea that you can flatten the curve, but doing so doesn’t change the area under the curve, just the shape. In other words, less cases early means more cases later.

Those states not doing well now are the states that did well early. Now they are catching up with the states that didn’t do so well early. The states that had more cases early are now on the down side of their curves and look “better”.

Where are the states that got hit hard early and are still being hit hard? (I don’t think there are any).

I’m still having coffee so input appreciated.


12 posted on 06/20/2020 7:04:27 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Just sit in your house until the food stops coming and then starve. You'll be safe.)
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Based on testing positive, which is a meaningless statistic. Testing positive with an 85 year old in a nursing home? Extremely serious! Testing positive of a 23 year old? Almost meaningless.

In Arizona, cases have surged upwards for weeks, while deaths continue to decline. The cases are surging AMONG THE YOUNG. 47% of all cases are taking place in those 20-47. For that age group, since this began, there are a total of 67 deaths in Arizona (population 7 million).

Once one opens the state, the YOUNG were going to have more cases. Of course! But that is the point: PROTECT THE VULNERABLE, NOT EVERYONE!

Arizona’s numbers are ENCOURAGING. We’re seeing a very rapid increase in cases for a month while deaths are still declining. In fact, our cases NEVER showed a decline...but out deaths have been. Peaked late April. Been declining ever since.

BTW: A friend just tested positive. She probably caught it in January. Neither her husband nor any of her friends have tested positive, so apparently it isn’t as contagious as people pretend. But she is a “new case”.....


14 posted on 06/20/2020 7:06:57 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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Here’s the way I express the numbers...

(1) USA Tested - 26 million - Almost 8% of USA Population

(2) USA Positive Tests - 2.2 million - 8.6% of Tests Are Positive

(3) How many tested or positive for antibodies - Unknown

(4) Percent of USA population that is or was infected - My Estimate - 10% or 33 million Americans - Several European cities have reported an 11%-12% infection rate.

(5) USA COVID-19 Fatalities - 120,000

(6) USA Case Fatality Rate - Based on 33 million estimated infections - 0.36%

(7) Case Fatality Rate for a severe influenza season - 0.15%

(8) Because of a massive over count of COVID-19 deaths - all “presumed” COVID deaths are counted and all pneumonia related deaths are counted - it is likely that the COVID-19 case fatality rate is very close to, or below, the flu fatality rate.


23 posted on 06/20/2020 7:22:08 AM PDT by zeestephen
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