[cuban leaf]

‘Following orders’ is also not an excuse.

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That applies to knowingly harming innocents. That’s not what I’m talking about. If it is official police proceedure to shoot to kill anyone running from the scene of a crime and a cop does that, the only way a cop is culpable is if he knew full well the person was completely innocent but shot him anyway for sport, or because he was sleeping with his wife, or any other reason like that.

Our men who dropped bombs in Vietnam or in Germany KNEW they were killing innocents and “just following orders”. They could because the innocents were “collateral damage”.

[MeganC]

Your argument in general simply reinforces my own opposition to the militarized and increasingly violent urban police departments.