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To: MeganC
are you 100% sure that the knee to the neck is what killed him?....he said he couldn't breathe and that "he hurt all over" IIRC....when someone is talking he CAN BREATHE....are you entirely sure that the man just didn't have a sudden cardiac arrest?....

I'm on record of being hard on the cops over the yrs....I just want the whole story....

33 posted on 06/11/2020 10:22:45 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
are you 100% sure that the knee to the neck is what killed him?....

I'm 100% sure that if a cop could do that to George Floyd with his hand cuffed behind his back, he could do it to me too.

And I'm pretty sure it would kill me. It would certainly be a life-threatening situation.

47 posted on 06/11/2020 10:29:18 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: cherry

“are you 100% sure that the knee to the neck is what killed him?”

Are you seriously proposing that it does no harm to have three cops pressing someone into the pavement while that person is in respiratory arrest?


52 posted on 06/11/2020 10:33:36 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: cherry

Uhmmmm....no, that is not entirely true.

I recently took up Jui Jitsu and lemme tell you, when a man is on you in the right position you can’t breathe. That’s what it feels like and I say “I can’t breathe. Let’s break”

I am stunned how quickly I get to “I can’t breathe” but, look forward to developing the skills to put that on some one else...


59 posted on 06/11/2020 10:38:26 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: cherry
"... when someone is talking he CAN BREATHE ..."

I believe it is possible for a person to use their own muscles to resist pressure being applied to their neck long enough to say, "I can't breathe" and die minutes later because they cannot maintain the opposition to the pressure indefinitely. It was easy for the cop to maintain the pressure. Perhaps it was not so easy for the victim to resist the pressure for nearly nine minutes. Thus I conclude that the victim's statement does not invalidate the complaint.

Cops are under the same constraints as the rest of the population. That is, they are not justified in using more force than necessary to subdue a suspect. Consider the fact that an observing officer took the victim's pulse while the other officer still had a knee on the victim's neck. The combination of those two facts suggest to me that excess force was used.

128 posted on 06/11/2020 3:10:03 PM PDT by William Tell
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