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To: xone

Not really sure how that comment fits with our narrative. The claim is that a Fed employee can’t be fired even if they commit a crime(McCabe, Strzik, Page, Comey, etc...) How would they rescind a pension?


1,311 posted on 06/11/2020 4:51:32 PM PDT by DrDude (The War in ON! Time for the famed Pincher Movement.)
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To: DrDude
Not really sure how that comment fits with our narrative. The claim is that a Fed employee can’t be fired even if they commit a crime(McCabe, Strzik, Page, Comey, etc...)

Are those guys receiving a military pension? Are they former military at all?

'Retirees Remain Subject to Court Martial. Military retirees can be tried at court martial for crimes they commit — even though the alleged illegalities do not directly relate to their military service. The laws that subject retirees to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) remain intact.'

Article 88 - Contempt Toward Officials

Maximum Punishment Dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.

Not really sure how that comment fits with our narrative.

Not sure what you mean here, but:

Members of Congress may forfeit or lose their congressional pensions upon conviction of certain federal crimes under two different provisions of federal law:

1. Under the so-called “Hiss Act,” Members of Congress (and most other officers and employees of the federal government) will forfeit their entire federal employee retirement annuities if convicted of a federal crime that relates to espionage, treason, or several other national security offenses against the United States.

2. In addition to the Hiss Act provisions, Congress enacted, as part of the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act of 2007 (HLOGA; P.L. 110-81, Section 401), and as amended by the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act (STOCK Act; P.L. 112-105, Section 15) in 2012, further provisions that will deprive Members of all of their “creditable service” as a Member of Congress for federal pension purposes if that Member is convicted of any one of a number of federal laws concerning corruption, election crimes, or misconduct in office. The forfeiture provisions of this law will apply if the criminal misconduct was engaged in while the individual was a Member of Congress (or while the individual was the President, Vice President, or an elected official of a state or local government), and if every element of the offense “directly relates to the performance of the individual’s official duties as a Member, the President, the Vice President, or an elected official of a State or local government.” 5 U.S.C. § 8411(l)(2)(B).

1,327 posted on 06/11/2020 5:20:14 PM PDT by xone
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