how to write contract for one project with 2 contractors

me | 6/4/2020 | me

[shelterguy]

I’ve been contracting for 45 years. I know how it goes.

I was joking with the other honky.

[MIchaelTArchangel]

I take it you know little about the law and less about concrete and brick work.

I will make a comment about the law. If you are not an attorney, do NOT attempt to write any contract. Consult an attorney who is experienced in contract law as it applies to construction in your state. If you allow each contractor to write his/her own contract, have an attorney review both contracts before you sign them. And make certain you understand all the clauses in the contracts in each contract.

Here are some comments on modern construction techniques. Your probably do not need the brick layers. You probably are dealing with the wrong concrete pouring company. There are any number of concrete pouring companies that pour concrete into forms that create retaining walls that look like laid brick without all the problems associated with a poured concrete wall with a brick wall in front of it. Both will move independently. The brick wall is more likely to deteriorate because of all the mortared joints.

You need to Bing the terms “Stonemakers”, “Stone Makers”, “Poured Concrete Artisans”, “Poured Concrete Brick Walls”, etc. My wife and I had a poured rock retaining wall installed to prevent erosion on our property in Massachusetts. There were boulders that were natural they construction people left in place. People could not tell which stones were real and which were concrete.

The real poured concrete professionals are able to stain the concrete to make it look like real stone or real brick by blasting the concrete with various ground stone products.

I believe the contractor we used was originally from New Mexico and then moved to New Hampshire. I think his company name is StoneMakers Artisans or something similar to that. He can probably put you in contact with upstanding Stonemakers in your area.

[Rebelbase]

Skip the project and use the money for guns and ammo.

[HereInTheHeartland]

Do just one contract for the whole project .
Find someone to do it all

[Sequoyah101]

IDGAF

Read between the lines.

[Sequoyah101]

And ISDGAF.

[Sequoyah101]

Just not enough to work with to offer constructive help. I can’t break it down into simple enough terms. Takes far too long.

[Sequoyah101]

I think we struck a nerve. I’m through stimulating it now. How about you?

[enduserindy]

I literally have to wave a check and then lock it in the car to get a receipt. The check is always written to the company listed on the named cert of coverage.

[enduserindy]

It’s a retaining wall. One contractor. Maybe another for weathering only.

[coaster123]

I wasn’t trying to strike his nerve.

Hang in there, comrade!

[SteveH]

Thanks, but I have managed to hold my own in regards to the law up through the present. Insofar as concrete and brick work go, I have never attempted to do any myself and probably what is giving me pause now is a combination of inexperience at that stuff and my age (my back which is currently OK and which I wish to preserve that way).

I will consider the legal review. It sounds like a good idea.

[SteveH]

I’m already covered in those areas. Along those lines I feel that a new fence puts me at significant advantage if any varmints are in the area and try to get in. Thanks for the advice though.

[SteveH]

That makes two of us. You can GBTMAC now.

[trebb]

Micromanaging the experts is almost always a bad deal...you tell them what you want, they write the contract and you read it and ask questions if something isn’t clear...the brick people look at the end product and tell the concrete people what sort of “base’ they need to do their job...the concrete people frame/reinforce/pour the concrete.

[coaster123]

"Two contractors will point their fingers at each other if something goes wrong. But it will be you left with a costly problem. And a dozen headaches. Find someone licensed and insured who can do the full job. If you haven't been able to find such a tradesman then wait until you do." Also Or even worse they will conspire and assign blame to neither of themselves. "You gotta call the manufacturer on that."

[SteveH]

i tend to agree, so i am seriously considering an email message to both now, getting both to review and comment on my most recent design sketch. then maybe lawyer review of contract with my design incorporated. then probably serialize everything if they agree on my design. thanks for input.