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Police Lawyer Gives his analysis of George Floyd's death.
Youtube ^ | May 30, 2020 | Hildy

Posted on 05/30/2020 11:35:47 AM PDT by Hildy

The George Floyd - Minneapolis video. Analysis and comments


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To: NautiNurse

A fire department EMT was a witness and screamed at the cop to stop it when the dude lost consciousness. She knew the cop was killing him at that point. He knew it too. This is a very clear case of AT LEAST involuntary manslaughter. It may rise to the level of second degree murder given the evidence showing the cop’s “abandoned and malignant heart.”


81 posted on 05/30/2020 3:03:59 PM PDT by Thud
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To: basalt

This was my day job. The State of California used to pay me more than $100k a year to review excessive use of force cases (among many other things). I had @ 800 hours experience in private practice in such cases before the State hired me.


82 posted on 05/30/2020 3:07:21 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Thud
I had a visceral reaction to watching the video, complete with feelings of helplessness to assist the dying man. Wanted to smack the taste out of the mouth of knee-on-neck cop. His smug face while posing with hands on his hips was clear evidence the dying man was not resisting. Pure evil.

I am not a cop hater. Lots of respect for law enforcement. This was a group of deputized rogues who need to spend the rest of their miserable lives regretting what they did. Knee-on-neck needs to spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder in prison.

83 posted on 05/30/2020 3:10:40 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: NautiNurse

I will wait to hear the actual cause of death before I hang everyone in sight.


84 posted on 05/30/2020 3:10:40 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy

Why do you repeatedly reference lynching? Very odd.


85 posted on 05/30/2020 3:12:37 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: NautiNurse

Just like the video.

Why didn’t quote the whole use of force policy


86 posted on 05/30/2020 3:21:13 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: NautiNurse

Your screen name would indicate your are a nurse.

The medical examiner said he didn’t die of asphyxiation.

Have you made a guess as to how he died?


87 posted on 05/30/2020 3:22:09 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy

The cause of death is secondary to the sworn duty of the MPD to 1. cease the use of force when the person in custody is not resisting, and 2. failure to render medical aid when the man was clearly in medical extremis.


88 posted on 05/30/2020 3:25:46 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: tinyowl

And the 4th cop just standing around watching the guy die.

The other two may not have seen the knee on the neck but the 4th plainly saw all.


89 posted on 05/30/2020 3:28:30 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: riverrunner
Why didn’t quote the whole use of force policy

I provided link to the source. You don't even need to work your pudding fingers with a Google search.

90 posted on 05/30/2020 3:29:02 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: tinyowl
I mean if this really was as brutal as it appears, the cop's got a case for incompetent to stand trial on the basis of pure stupidity (I'm not really serious).

The knee-on-neck cop had 17 prior excessive force complaints in his file. All but one were dismissed. That might have given him some confidence that the odd were in his favor.

91 posted on 05/30/2020 3:32:16 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: shelterguy

“Logical people wait to find the cause of death before accusing people of crimes.”

Logical people watch the video and see a cop violate department procedures and medical protocols resulting in the death of a restrained person.

Whatever the cause of death they acted without regard for his life by keeping pressure on the neck after he passed out.


92 posted on 05/30/2020 3:33:00 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NautiNurse

The cause of death is critical in critical obtaining a murder conviction


93 posted on 05/30/2020 3:34:48 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: shelterguy; riverrunner; NautiNurse; TexasGator

The original call from the store that complained about the fake $20 (used to buy cigarettes) told the police dispatcher “Floyd was messed up”.


94 posted on 05/30/2020 3:36:05 PM PDT by Does so (George Floyd a CO-poisoning victim?)
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To: sojc

“A tactic approved if conducted properly. Sloppiness is not a get out of jail free card.”

Not approved for a restrained person not actively resisting.

Not approved for continued application of force after the person becomes nonresponsive.

Not approved for the use of knee on neck (subject to my interpretation)


95 posted on 05/30/2020 3:37:05 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: riverrunner

I want those cops convicted of all appropriate charges. At this point, I would consider torture resulting in death as a reasonable charge.


96 posted on 05/30/2020 3:37:33 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: Does so

“The original call from the store that complained about the fake $20 (used to buy cigarettes) told the police dispatcher “Floyd was messed up”.”

So what! All previous events are irrelevant once a constrained person goes nonresponsive.


97 posted on 05/30/2020 3:38:57 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NautiNurse

So if he died of a drug overdose whose fault is it?


98 posted on 05/30/2020 3:39:43 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: NautiNurse

That the problem what you want and what the law wants and says are different things.


99 posted on 05/30/2020 3:41:01 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Does so

“””””The original call from the store that complained about the fake $20 (used to buy cigarettes) told the police dispatcher “Floyd was messed up”.”””””””””””””””

If somebody from that area says somebody is “messed up” then they would have to be REALLY messed up.


100 posted on 05/30/2020 3:41:54 PM PDT by shelterguy
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