Posted on 05/20/2020 8:09:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Well, one aborted fetus in 1973, at any rate.
The Moderna vaccine consists of MRNA (Messenger RNA) which is replicated (manufactured) presumably using PCR, It is then encapsulated to be able to get into the cytoplasm. Your cell then carries out the MRNA instructions to make a small amount of spike protein, which then causes you to become immunized.
The article mistakenly says they are using aborted fetal cells to make spike protein they put in the vaccine.
It looks like scientists isolated the spike protein using information from fetal cell lines they infected with the virus. They then determined the protein structure and amino acid sequence, they then used computation to find the encoding sequence in the virus genome. The sin, if any, was to use a commercial cell line from Thermo-Fisher, in the research process.
Moderna does not use spike protein in the vaccine. It is MRNA encapsulated in lipids. The MRNA is not made by cell lines.
I”m antiabortion but sometimes activists are lured into bearing false witness. Haters gonna hate. Short sellers gonna lie.
Settles it for me. I do not support any research that uses cells from aborted murdered children. Don't care how promising it is, don't care if it cures cancer. I won't take it if it becomes available and I'm one of the "high risk" individuals.
One day I'll have to stand before God and answer for my life, I don't want to answer for benefiting from the murder of unborn children
Not taking your vaccine for an illness with a mortality of less than 1%.
Just not.
Do people just wander around with no consideration that there is a heaven and a hell? That either of those choices is fordd Ed ver?
Stop with the abortion already. It is the most evil practice ever perpetrated by humanity.
You and I posted at the exact same time. I have a question specific to your comment above: does the Thermo-Fisher cell line use cells from murdered children?
If this is true, that sucks.
What sucks worse, though, is the Chinese realizing their goals for all of us, including any siblings of those babies. Do you think the CCP wants fewer American babies to be aborted, or more American babies to be aborted?
HEK 293 cells were generated in 1973 by transfection of cultures of normal human embryonic kidney cells with sheared adenovirus 5 DNA in Alex van der Eb’s laboratory in Leiden, the Netherlands. The cells were obtained from a single, apparently healthy, legally aborted fetus under Dutch law; the identity of the parents and the reason for the abortion are unknown.[1] The cells were cultured by van der Eb; the transfection by adenovirus was performed by Frank Graham, a post-doc in van der Eb’s lab. They were published in 1977 after Graham left Leiden for McMaster University.[2] They are called HEK since they originated in human embryonic kidney cultures, while the number 293 came from Graham’s habit of numbering his experiments; the original HEK 293 cell clone was from his 293rd experiment. Graham performed the transfection a total of eight times, obtaining just one clone of cells that were cultured for several months. After presumably adapting to tissue culture, cells from this clone developed into the relatively stable HEK 293 line.
Subsequent analysis has shown that the transformation was brought about by inserting ~4.5 kilobases from the left arm of the viral genome, which became incorporated into human chromosome 19.[3]
For many years it was assumed that HEK 293 cells were generated by transformation of either a fibroblastic, endothelial or epithelial cell, all of which are abundant in kidneys. However, the original adenovirus transformation was inefficient, suggesting that the cell that finally produced the HEK 293 line may have been unusual in some fashion. Graham and coworkers provided evidence that HEK 293 cells and other human cell lines generated by adenovirus transformation of human embryonic kidney cells have many properties of immature neurons, suggesting that the adenovirus preferentially transformed a neuronal lineage cell in the original kidney culture.[4]
A comprehensive study of the genomes and transcriptomes of HEK 293 and five derivative cell lines compared the HEK 293 transcriptome with that of human kidney, adrenal, pituitary and central nervous tissue.[5] The HEK 293 pattern most closely resembled that of adrenal cells, which have many neuronal properties. Given the location of the adrenal gland (adrenal means “next to the kidney”), a few adrenal cells could plausibly have appeared in an embryonic kidney derived culture, and could be preferentially transformed by adenovirus. Adenoviruses transform neuronal lineage cells much more efficiently than typical human kidney epithelial cells.[4] An embryonic adrenal precursor cell therefore seems the most likely origin cell of the HEK 293 line. As a consequence, HEK 293 cells should not be used as an in vitro model of typical kidney cells.
HEK 293 cells have a complex karyotype, exhibiting two or more copies of each chromosome and with a modal chromosome number of 64. They are described as hypotriploid, containing less than three times the number of chromosomes of a haploid human gamete. Chromosomal abnormalities include a total of three copies of the X chromosome and four copies of chromosome 17 and chromosome 22.[5][6] The presence of multiple X chromosomes and the lack of any trace of Y chromosome derived sequence suggest that the source fetus was female.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEK_293_cells
RE: Not taking your vaccine for an illness with a mortality of less than 1%.
At this point, we are not even sure about the denominator ( the infection rate ), since many infected are asymptomatic.
Heck, we are not even sure of the mortality rate ( since may of those counted as Covid-19 deaths are BY DEFAULT, assumed to have died of Covid-19 even when they died of other causes ).
Let’s be honest and say we don’t really know what the mortality percentage is.
See post 9 for the background on the cell line. Thanks, hat tip to moonman62.
Thank you for flagging me to it. No good comes from evil. Not a vaccine or research I can support.
GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED!!!
“The Moderna vaccine consists of MRNA (Messenger RNA) which is replicated (manufactured) presumably using PCR, “
This is such an important topic, it would be most helpful
if instead of using words like “presumably” you would provide a link to a reference that supports your presumptions.
Many people may soon have to choose between a job and an injection developed from the kidneys of a sacrificed baby.
Facts supported with references would be helpful considering what is on the line here.
God’s Word is pretty clear about the consequences for an individual and a nation that murders babies to harvest their organs for any reason.
“I”m antiabortion but sometimes activists are lured into bearing false witness. Haters gonna hate. Short sellers gonna lie.”
I agree 100%. The headline makes it sound like Moderna is hanging outside abortion clinics with ziplock bags to collect material. That is not the case.
Some people will politicize every thing and find fault with every person.
The global multi faceted organization that is about “population control” is about three things primarily first contraception second abortion third mass vaccinations
Remember that it’s about population control! and this is why the vaccine industry is so prevalent in their mantra because they want to control the population by hurting them into some office where they get the government approved shot of whatever
Vaccines have some used in this world but for the most part are overzealously forcibly foisted upon the populace , and in particular babies !!
this has been incredibly detrimental ; it has created the entire autism spectrum created the horrible sudden infant death syndrome or SIDS and many other ailments
Much of the focus right now in this vaccine push is simply for the Karen’s of this world who will eagerly lineup and get shot with whatever the government wants to put in them
Us conservatives or as they would call “anti-VAX or’s” should simply focus on the fact that this is a free country and you should have the choice whether or not to inject the government approved “vaccine” or not
Thank you. Well put.
Vaccine manufacture is just one reason abortion is carried out on an industrial scale. That’s why you don’t hear anything about the disposal of the victims.
One is one too many.
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