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Madison Area Lyme Support Group ^ | 05/16/2020 | EasySt

Posted on 05/16/2020 5:14:49 PM PDT by EasySt

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To: bagster

“I’m a gentleman and a squire.”

That you are sir, just too clever by 188%

;-)

~Easy


141 posted on 05/17/2020 3:45:09 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: jmacusa; greeneyes; bagster

I’ve come across a FRiendly post in another thread that seems
appropriate to drag over here while we’re discussing this stuff...
(With, I hope, their blessing...)

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Anyone who was not around for the government’s 1975 swine
flu vaccine debacle would be wise to research it. This
vaccine is being rushed through development by a bunch of
people desperate to save face. The odds of bad things
happening are quite high.
************************************************************

Well I was here for that, and also for fast-tracked Salk
Vaccine of 1955. Cutter Labs produced a bad batch
administered to over 200 thousand people.

The mass vaccination program had to be suspended within a
month-70Thousand cases of muscle weakness, 164 cases of
sever paralysis, 10 deaths. 75% of the paralyzed were that
way the rest of their lives. This was more than the average
occurance with out vaccine.

And in short order, there was the SV40 contamination which
has been associated with certain types of cancer. SV 40
stands for the 40th Simian Virus identified -happens because
they use monkey kidneys.

In 1977 Dr. Salk testified in Congress that the oral polio
vaccine had caused most of the polio cases in the USA since
the early 1960s.

What sort of virus/disease was Polio?
-75% of people would have no symptoms
-1 in 4 would have flu like symptoms for 2-5 days
-1 of 200 would have weakness or paralysis, but many
recovered
-2-10% of the paralyzed died

I was part of the initial 1954 trial. The next year my
parents refused to sign the permission slip so I was lucky—
every one at my school that got the vaccine that year got
sick and threw up all over the place.

Everyone is entitled to informed consent - to know the risks
and to know that the vaccine has not been contaminated. They
should also be entitled to decline any medical procedure
including vaccines(especially new ones) and take their
chances.

69 posted on 5/17/2020, 1:48:49 AM by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue—LET FREEDOM RING)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3845605/posts?page=69#69

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Thanks Green Eyes!

~Easy


142 posted on 05/17/2020 4:04:16 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: EasySt

I’m against the “everyone must take all the vaccines that are being pushed” crowd, and may opt out of whatever they tout for this bug, but if that’s your only objection, keep them away from your phone and/or check for and remove unwanted apps.


143 posted on 05/17/2020 4:23:44 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: trebb

Thanks for posting. Enjoy the thread...

;-)

~Easy


144 posted on 05/17/2020 5:14:25 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: EasySt
From a private communication:
Apr 16
Indian doctors blame #BillGates campaign for a devastating non-polio acute flaccid paralysis epidemic that paralyzed 490,000 children.

In 2017 India dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and asked Gates and his vaccine policies to leave India.

Will post a link when I get a valid URL
145 posted on 05/17/2020 5:51:53 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: EasySt

You missed the point

Your article does not say the injection is tracked, the syringe is.

But Do you think you’d have your phone with you when you got the hypothetical injection?


146 posted on 05/17/2020 6:02:08 AM PDT by BiggBob
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To: jmacusa
It might interest you to know Poindexter I don’t follow any government blindly with unquestioned obedience on anything

Zatso?

Didn't you say "The flu vaccine was first introduced in 1942. I've had a number of them. I have to because when you work in health care like I do you have to, it's the law." way back in post #37?

147 posted on 05/17/2020 6:03:48 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: BiggBob

Phone, face recog, driver’s license, how they id or track is not the point.
the global database and what it enables is the point.

We all managed to figure out together in the thread that this doesn’t track
you with anything in the vaccine itself.

Lots of ground covered to shoot from the hip at an already tagged target.


148 posted on 05/17/2020 6:51:33 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: EasySt
I imagine a number of the "if there's a vaccine, then it's your solemn duty to take it..no matter how ineffective" crowd.

Some vaccines are useful...but if they worked as well as some would have us think, then they can take them and should have no worries about catching anything...but they think they're the voice of those who opt out...and they have no idea of how ... "liberal" their "good intentions for those who can't take care of their own business" are.

149 posted on 05/17/2020 7:02:46 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: dinodino

You can bet that in some Government bureaucrat’s data base the RFID number is recorded who it was administered to, the date, and location is included in the data.


150 posted on 05/17/2020 7:03:39 AM PDT by sport
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To: EasySt

Thanks to the People’s Choice, your medical records are computerized.Before you leave the Doctor’s Office, a copy has been sent to the appropriate Agency in Washington, D.C. Ditto your prescriptions. Except the prescription information is cc to the appropriate Agency at your State Capital.


151 posted on 05/17/2020 7:26:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: EasySt
We don't take the seasonal flu shot and we sure are not taking a covid vaccine. 😆 First they make the vaccine mandatory. Then they hand you an immunity card. Next you are asked to show your immunity card at the grocery and pharmacy. If you don't have one you don't get food or meds. Now you are a slave.
152 posted on 05/17/2020 7:26:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight neiyour way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

would they require an immunity card to vote?


153 posted on 05/17/2020 7:28:30 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Why not. Immunity card for public tra too.


154 posted on 05/17/2020 7:29:59 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight neiyour way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: jmacusa

Sorry to jump on you about that. I am glad that your blessed to not have any adverse flu shot effects. The data shows that many do. I do not agree with any mandated vaccines as a condition of employment. I probably have done way more than most in researching the vaccine issue and I am well know to my Congressional Rep. as I make my views well know to him.
Stay well and have a great weekend!


155 posted on 05/17/2020 9:18:34 AM PDT by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: bagster

Look, I’m what you call a “movement conservative”, meaning I’ve been actively involved in grass-roots activism since the Reagan campaign. A lot of friends dated back to the Goldwater years, but sadly, many of them are either too old to be involved much, or their health doesn’t allow it.

So, before anything existed on line. I’m sure you remember those days as well.

And one thing that has always fizzed on the fringes of that movement were the conspiracy nuts. We had gold bugs, the JBS moaning on about virtually everything, you name it. And now we’ve got the on-line version. Q-Anon, anti-Vaxers (who back in the day were confined to the liberal granola gang) , well you get the idea.

I realize that a huge populist wave washed over what had been remaining of that movement, and that those times have changed.

What hasn’t changed is the fringe conspiracy theorists always fall back to “you don’t understand!” when they are unable to explain their crackpot ideas in a cogent manner that might actually change someone’s mind. Well, that and sputtering insults, which has the same effect.

So I don’t like Gates or Soros politic’s any more than you do, but they can be more effectively resisted if we direct our fire where the enemy actually is, rather than where our fevered imaginings would like them to be.


156 posted on 05/17/2020 10:18:29 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: BiggBob

“NO the syringe is NOT tracked.
The syringe is discarded after use.
The person who was identified in the database as receiving that injection IS tracked (for Contact Tracing)
see: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/open-america/contact-tracing.html


157 posted on 05/17/2020 3:51:16 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: BiggBob

And there’s this:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/case-investigation-contact-tracing.pdf
From page 9 in this pdf:

Role of Servers of Public Health Orders**** Serves public
health orders for isolation (clients with COVID-19) or
quarantine (contacts) as necessary for people who are
noncompliant with public health recommendations to self-
isolate or self-quarantine—either in-person or
electronically.

Existing Public Health Classifications Performing these
Activities** Public Health Investigators or other public
health personnel with delegated authority

Of course, there are no tracked vaccines yet, but when they
are available this CDC organization will NOT expire, and
vaccine tracing will inevitably be included in their
expanded responsibility (and power and authority).

FRegards,
~Easy


158 posted on 05/17/2020 4:49:16 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: EasySt

[It’s a war with (against) the powers and principalities]

Indeed it is. I know this all too well.

Ouch


159 posted on 05/17/2020 11:23:14 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

[It’s a war with (against) the powers and principalities]

Indeed it is. I know this all too well.

Ouch

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Thanks for the correction! Ouch, indeed!

;-)
~Easy


160 posted on 05/18/2020 11:38:07 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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