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To: nickcarraway
In Jalisco at least 28 people have died since April 26 from drinking El Chorrito, cane alcohol tainted with methanol, and seven have died in Yucatán after drinking bootleg liquor.

Something I did not know until this year is that when Moonshiners would run a still, they would throw out the first gallon or so of product because the methanol comes out of the batch first, and the first gallon or so is always contaminated with methanol.

Methanol is always a byproduct of distillation, and it has to be dealt with by the big alcohol producers as well as the little ones. These people in Mexico either didn't know about methanol, or just didn't care.

9 posted on 05/13/2020 3:51:36 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Something I did not know until this year is that when Moonshiners would run a still, they would throw out the first gallon or so of product because the methanol comes out of the batch first, and the first gallon or so is always contaminated with methanol.

Known as “Heads and Ends” - this is the first and last bits that come from the distillations run - distillers normally throw this out as contaminated with all sort of nasty chemicals including methanol. Often called Fusel oils

Recently distillers been turning this to hand sanitizers


13 posted on 05/13/2020 4:15:25 PM PDT by njslim
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’ll take “didn’t care” for $200, Alex...”

The Mexican moonshiners must be trying to give Andrew Cuomo a run for the money in how many people can be killed “by accident”.


19 posted on 05/13/2020 5:10:03 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: DiogenesLamp
“when Moonshiners would run a still, they would throw out the first gallon or so of product because the methanol comes out of the batch first”

Basically true if you are running a BIG still. For smaller home rigs a shot glass suffices to take off the methanol. It smells like paint thinner, because it is. Ethanol boils off at ~173.1. Once it starts running your ok. Brandy has a high content of methanol and other cogeners by nature. That's why you get horrible headaches with it.

My guess is the deaths were not from methanol. Probably in manufacturing as in adding something like ethylene glycol.

22 posted on 05/13/2020 5:49:59 PM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa paalle)
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To: DiogenesLamp

The light-ends come off of a still early - around 180 degrees F - and burn your gums quite badly. In a normal 20 gallon run of mash, toss the first pint, or better yet save it for hand sanitizer. By the time the pot reaches 190, the light ends are gone.

Typical light-ends contain some toluene, obviously methanol, and an entire range of cyclic hydrocarbons that really mess with our CNS.

For best results, take the entire first run (minus the light-ends), dilute it with 2:1 mix of distilled water, and run it again for cleanliness and pure flavor.

I don’t quite understand how continuous flow multi-plate stills manage to separate out the light-ends unless they can pull product from the top plates selectively. Just a simple shine enthusiast, not a pro, so fractional distillation is above my pay grade.


24 posted on 05/13/2020 6:50:04 PM PDT by datura
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