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Flubros and Flubras! Day 44 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 2 May 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 05/02/2020 5:48:49 AM PDT by impimp

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To: BradyLS

Technically, that should not be possible, as testing for the flu won’t reveal the ‘rona. However, where tens of thousands of dollars per ‘rona patient is concerned, folks should be on the lookout for shenanigans in counting.


21 posted on 05/02/2020 9:06:08 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: abb
Wondering why Trump hasn't publically accused China of deliberately releasing this rona?

Here's why, if you can understand the comms. Read the links.

(a VERY reliable source)

https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1255972553950220288
Think SIGINT
Think CIA
Think Double agents
China thought they eliminated all in-country assets.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spies-espionage.html
Some things are better left untold [cov].
Public truths of some events force wars.
WWIII prevent.
Hello, Feinstein.


22 posted on 05/02/2020 9:15:39 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr

23 posted on 05/02/2020 9:19:35 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: LastDayz
Firmly believe it’s been here since December, possibly November.

Firmly believe that most chinese products delivered into people's homes by Amazon, were covered in virus.

Really, if China WANTED to spread a biological agent all across the West, could you think of a more efficient way to do it than shipments of Chinese stuff direct to millions of homes?

24 posted on 05/02/2020 9:21:14 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: gas_dr
2. The increase in cases demonstrate wide spread testing.

Saw Dr. Richard Besser on "Good Morning America" today, and he confirmed something I have been reading elsewhere. Testing is sh*t. There are no known accurate tests out there yet.

He said all the test available are too broad, and pick up wide arrays of corona viruses other than Covid 19.

Do you know what's worse than no information? Bad information.

25 posted on 05/02/2020 11:01:44 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

So the positive numbers in your judgment are also grossly inflated


26 posted on 05/02/2020 11:04:23 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I am one of many Americans who now thinks he caught it before Christmas.

Did you have a fever? From what i've read, fever is a dominant symptom of this thing. If you didn't get a fever, you probably didn't have it. Another significant symptom is loss of smell and taste.

27 posted on 05/02/2020 11:05:25 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: meyer

As a result of post-mortem testing a California deceased was found to have died of CV. Date of death: Dec 6.


28 posted on 05/02/2020 11:08:28 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: gas_dr
So the positive numbers in your judgment are also grossly inflated

I do not know. They might be inflated, or they might not be. This is a very different thing from saying all these people have been tested for Covid 19. It all hinges on the accuracy of the tests involved, and we don't know what that is.

I'm just trying to get people to stop running with a conclusion that isn't necessarily supported by their proclaimed evidence.

29 posted on 05/02/2020 11:10:18 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: gogeo
As a result of post-mortem testing a California deceased was found to have died of CV. Date of death: Dec 6.

What sort of test are they using to make this determination?

30 posted on 05/02/2020 11:11:08 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I believe the article did not say.


31 posted on 05/02/2020 11:12:41 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

You can’t have it both ways. Your argument necessarily means the positive numbers are falsely night. And and he positive predictive value is poor.

I have analyzed the primary source data from each stare. When you separate confirmed from presumptive the number of confirmed CoVId deaths is 38,000

The viral pcr tests are in fact specific to CoVId FYI


32 posted on 05/02/2020 11:15:35 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Please I beg you get your facts correct
The predominant symptom is NO SYMPTOMS. 85-90% of cases are asymptomstix or so mild that they are not reported. Amos Mia is 30% of cases. Hardly predominate. You cannot make a statement that if you didn’t have a fever you probably didn’t have it. Thst is reckless and untrue and exposes your ongoing agenda


33 posted on 05/02/2020 11:17:48 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: DiogenesLamp

What sort of test are they using to make this determination?
= = = = = = = = = =
Hasn’t there been some sort of ‘contest’ to see where the first ‘victim’ assumed room temp?
Must be some sort of bragging rights as are how many have died.

No one has given the beerflu ‘due credit’ for virtually stopping ALL deaths due to heart attacks, cancer, traffic with only ‘suicide’ being give some leeway BUT that can be determined that was because of the beerflu.

Then again with a ‘cash reward’ for handling such diagnosed patients and probably a ‘bonus’ for funeral homes having to handle the ‘victims’ no wonder the death rates are skyrocketing.

The ‘biggest fear’ the chicken littles have is MASS TESTING, with it being discovered that MANY are going to be diagnosed with one form or another BUT the death rates won’t be rising accordingly.

That will finally put the ‘icing on the cake’ of this largely overblown ‘hoax’.
FOLLOW THE MONEY


34 posted on 05/02/2020 11:21:07 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: gas_dr
The viral pcr tests are in fact specific to CoVId FYI

They did 1,300 PCR tests on prison inmates in Tennessee?

So why isn't Dr. Richard Besser better informed? You would think if anyone was, it would be someone who has to go on national TV and not make a fool of himself.

We will eventually get the accurate story on this. Either Dr. Besser (and others who have said the same thing) are wrong, or the people doing these tests are wrong.

35 posted on 05/02/2020 11:22:57 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: gas_dr
The predominant symptom is NO SYMPTOMS. 85-90% of cases are asymptomstix or so mild that they are not reported.

Okay, I take issue with the characterization of "no symptoms" as a "symptom." It sounds like we are trying to bastardize what words mean.

Yes, I've read that quite a lot of people get this bug and don't show symptoms, but you can't call the lack of "symptoms" a "symptom."

When symptoms present, the dominant one is fever. I believe I recall it presents in about 78% of the cases. Other symptoms present to lesser degrees, like cough, nausea, rash, and so forth.

Thst is reckless and untrue and exposes your ongoing agenda

I don't have an "agenda" in the manner that I think you are using the word. I want people to go back to work, and I think a lot of the stuff governors and such did was over the top stupid and ineffective.

I am at low risk for exposure, and low risk for getting seriously ill even if I do get infected.

I just think it's foolish to play games with potentially serious and deadly diseases, and I think the efforts to portray it as "just the flu bro" are reckless and stupid.

Sure, let's open up restaurants and such, but people still need to be aware of the risks.

36 posted on 05/02/2020 11:31:39 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: xrmusn
The ‘biggest fear’ the chicken littles have is MASS TESTING, with it being discovered that MANY are going to be diagnosed with one form or another BUT the death rates won’t be rising accordingly.

I would very much like to see mass testing. I just want to be assured that this isn't fake testing, and that they really can identify the specific characteristics of this Covid 19.

I saw an article that said they have so far recognized 287 different strains of this bug ranging in infectiousness and lethality from the very strong to the very weak.

How does 287 strains fit into this detection test?

Someone suggested that California is experiencing a weaker strain, while New York is experiencing a stronger strain.

Is this true? Who knows?

37 posted on 05/02/2020 11:35:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Is this true? Who knows?
= = = = = = =

Good question.

You got ‘official’ people saying on one hand that the masks are not the answer and the same afternoon the same ‘task force’ is encouraging mask wear.

You got someone on the TF saying one ‘method’ is good and his expert may agree partially but go on another outlet and basically deny the method.

My point from the git-go is the Pres has been complimenting his TF for all the hard work and it is hard not to turn on a channel or radio and not having one of them on the ‘air’ basically contradicting each other.

You have people with Financial institutions giving ‘medical’ opinion and being taken seriously

If nothing else fauci(how many other 5 letter words start with FAU?) is putting himself in a vulnerable position and making it look like (at least to cynics like myself) he will gain from the latest ‘discovery’ drug especially since they are dragging out his old statements and his lack of any real progress in studies he is/was involved in.

I remember vividly when Camel Cigarettes had DOCTORS endorsing the cigarettes....
(((9 out of 10 doctors prefer Camels..the other prefers women)))

And that was when ‘we’ were calling them coffin nails, so it is kind of hard taking their ‘word’ on most anything since they were willing to ‘sell out’ for a buck or two.

FOLLOW THE MONEY


38 posted on 05/02/2020 12:05:11 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: impimp

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39 posted on 05/02/2020 12:05:28 PM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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40 posted on 05/02/2020 12:06:02 PM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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