We have heard about many outbreaks and deaths at nursing homes. Have there been similar outbreaks and deaths at retirement communities that are populated by elderly, but not sick, people?
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8 Apr: Real Clear Politics: Dr. Birx: Unlike Some Countries, “If Someone Dies With COVID-19 We Are Counting That As A COVID-19 Death
by Tim Hains
At Tuesday’s White House coronavirus press conference, task force member Dr. Deborah Birx said that while some countries are reporting coronavirus fatality numbers differently, in the U.S. you are counted as a victim of the pandemic if you die while testing positive for the virus, even if something else causes your death.
DR. DEBORAH BIRX: So, I think in this country we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality... There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem some countries are recording as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now we are still recording it and we will I mean the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID-19 infection the intent is right now that those if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/08/dr_birx_unlike_some_countries_if_someone_dies_with_covid-19_we_are_counting_that_as_a_covid-19_death.html
9 Apr: Forbes: A Fox News Conspiracy — Are Coronavirus Death Numbers Inflated? — Attacked By Fauci, Birx
by Jack Brewster (formmerly with Time, Newsweek, the New York Daily News and VICE News)
Topline: A new conspiracy theory—growing in particular on Fox News—that official coronavirus death toll numbers are padded with people who would’ve died anyway from preexisting conditions has some of the nation’s top health officials, including White House coronavirus task force members Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, speaking out to debunk it...
“Well, it seems entirely possible that doctors are classifying conventional pneumonia deaths as COVID-19 deaths,” (Tucker) Carlson said on his talk show Tuesday, adding “that would mean this epidemic is being credited for thousands of deaths that would have occurred if the virus never appeared here” (he also claimed there are “reasons” some may “seek an inaccurate death count”)...
Birx addressed this directly at the White House briefing Wednesday, saying that even though the virus is “particularly damaging” for people with preexisting conditions, their “underlying condition did not cause [their death]” — the coronavirus did.
Fauci, following up on Birx’s comments, was more critical of conspiracy theories in general: “You will always have conspiracy theories when you have a very challenging public health crises. They are nothing but distractions.”...
At the same time, officials at the Centers for Disease Control say the death toll is actually being underreported due to lack of testing...
Key background: On his show, Carlson pointed to Centers for Disease Control data showing that casualties from pneumonia are down. “For the last few weeks, that [pneumonia] number has come in far lower than at the same moment in previous years. How could that be?” Carlson said. But Aaron Blake of the Washington Post noted that the CDC data shows the number of pneumonia deaths is down only slightly, and those figures will not be complete for months.
***Big number: 37%. That’s the percentage of Fox News viewers who, according to a recent survey from Pew Research, said they believed COVID-19 came about naturally rather than in a laboratory, suggesting the media outlet you watch may be having a major effect on how you understand the virus
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/04/09/a-fox-news-conspiracy-are-coronavirus-death-numbers-inflated-attacked-by-fauci-birx/#584dcda116af
***Fauci hasn’t yet ruled out the Lab!
17 Feb Updated 18 Feb: USA Today: ‘Danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low’
Q. What about the conspiracy theories involving a bioweapons lab near Wuhan?
Fauci. There isn’t a bioweapons lab in Wuhan. There’s a biological containment that’s studying countermeasures against natural outbreak. Whenever you have a virus that you know has been studied in a lab, and virtually every virus is studied in a lab, and there’s an outbreak of a new virus, there’s always the suspicion that something either accidentally or deliberately was released. So, I mean, I can’t say absolutely that’s not the case. It is extremely unlikely that that’s the case, but you can find out if it is or not. And there are people who are actually looking at that right now. So I think we’re going to get some sort of an answer about that.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/02/17/new-coronavirus-what-dont-we-know-dr-anthony-fauci-q-a-opinion/4790996002/
so what is the Brewster Forbes’ article about - other than an attack on Fox/Trump supporters?