Posted on 04/12/2020 7:16:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
https://patch.com/california/paloalto/medical-experts-blast-calif-coronavirus-herd-immunity-theory
“USCFs Rutherford told the Chronicle it takes years to build up herd immunity for the flu.”
“Covid19 is not transmitted by aerosols (through the air). Transmission mainly takes place through direct contact or by droplet infection (coughing, sneezing).”
Aerosols are apparently also produced while speaking.
TMI
Thanks for posting.
Tons of content.
TMI,
that Killed Me!;)
Let’s start with the first paragraph:
“Stanford professor of medicine John Ioannidis concludes in a new study that the risk of death from Covid19 for people under 65 years of age, even in global hotspots, is equivalent to the risk of a fatal car accident for daily commuters driving between 9 and 400 miles.”
Using a fixed measure against a growing measure is ridiculous. Using his methods, for NYC the risk has already tripled in the 7 days since his April 4th date - and roughly 150% for Germany. They also appears to be equating annual fatal car accidents to those for 5 weeks of outbreaks. I wonder how many daily commuters drive over 400 miles per day. That would seem a weird outlier.
“The COVID-19 death risk in people <65 years old during the period of fatalities from the epidemic was equivalent to the death risk from driving between 9 miles per day (Germany) and 415 miles per day (New York City).”
This is interesting:
“RESULTS: Individuals with age <65 account for 5%-9% of all COVID-19 deaths in the 8 European epicenters, and approach 30% in three US hotbed locations.”
Nearly 30% of the deaths in the US hotspots are for those under 65?
Thanks for posting all of these articles from around the world. Worth saving for reference.
Dr. Cuomo in New York called on Ventilator use.. He also limited what Doctors could prescribe for his patience!! You can’t use New York for anything except a morgue! Outside New York City the numbers resemble the Flu!
Droplets in the context of this article.
The cat sneezed on me. should I be worried?/s
The dog put the cat up to it.
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Stanford professor of medicine John Ioannidis concludes in a new study that the risk of death from Covid19 for people under 65 years of age, even in global hotspots, is equivalent to the risk of a fatal car accident for daily commuters driving between 9 and 400 miles.
This study only looked at a population wide analysis, which assumes that the disease remains rare and is not spreading. But the only real way to analyze the lethality of Covid-19 is by looking at what happens in those who have actually caught Covid-19. The worldwide death rate among those who have contracted is just over 6%; the US death rate is nearly 4%. And this disease is still highly transmissible; stopping the quarantine measures now is folly. Until there is a vaccine or a reliable treatment, nothing will stop the disease other than the old tried-and-true methods of quarantine and social distancing. People have understood these concepts for centuries. Only in the modern world where people take for granted that we have conquered the majority of deadly infectious diseases do so many not understand the real threat.
Thank you very much. Good information.
Thank you!
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There will never be a vaccine, just as there will never be a vaccine against the common cold - a much weaker version of the corona virus. Also, there is a reliable treatment. Trump Pills.
Open the damned economy. If you're old and frail, keep on socially distancing yourself, but you don't get to dictate the loss of livelihoods to the rest of the citizenry, nor burden the rest of us with fascism.
Excellent information, thanks!
This is mainly a politician and media created crises. We should have asked the elderly to self quarantine for a few weeks, and never shut the schools, countrywide. Let hotspots deal with their issues.
Now we’ll have 20% unemployment. Probaly already have, and likely way more. And the terrible precident, all over the country, of government by decree from little dictators everywhere.
The long term damage will be enormous. Many people are incapable of balancing immediate risk against long term consequences.
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