Posted on 04/12/2020 11:58:51 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
I took a 7 day cruise once to the Mexican Riviera, only because a friend had already paid for the cruise, and it was a chance to see if it was anything I’d like to do in the future. No thanks. First and last cruise, and I’d never go back to Mexico. I’d rather get in my car, and drive so I can stop where I want, eat where I want, and see what I want. I took a 3 week bus tour of the British Isles in 2006. I enjoyed it, but it would have been nice to be able to spend more time in some of the places we visited. I’m too old now, and don’t have the money, but if I was younger, and had the chance to do it all over again, I’d fly to Britain, and rent a car, and see as much as I could for as long as I could.
Good for you.
I have been on about 40 cruises and would have done more except when I found a location while on a cruise I really liked, I would charter a sailboat the next year and cruise a that particular area on my own.
And I also did a lot of snorkeling and scuba diving on those trips. (Oh to be young again.)
I too, never saw a NORO Virus outbreak while on a cruise ship. -Tom
Looks like luxury minimum security prison.
LOL!! I worked 25 years in NY State's prison system, so any prison experience, like on a cruise ship is not my cup of tea. “Freeeedommm!”
I understand it completely
See my post to Ann Archy. -Tom
I’m having a hard time believing that, especially this part “... saw a 40% increase in its 2021 cruise bookings compared to 2019.”
Remember that is for one travel group.
The travel industry needs bookings for right now in 2020, to have chance to stay afloat. -Tom
” But on most ships they do a very very good job of keeping surfaces and hands clean.”
You go on a cruise, expect to get sick. Cruise lines have been hiding this.
I’m surprised that travel agencies are still around. My friend worked for one in CA. and they closed up shop a few years ago. Too many people are able to do their own bookings. We haven’t used an agent in many years as I’ve gotten quite good at booking all of our travel. You just need to invest some time. We’re not into group tours or riding buses so it is a little easier. We like to travel at our own pace.
From what I know UV will kill all virus BUT UV can be very dangerous to humans so a remedy can be more dangerous than the initial problem.
People understand that hydroxychloroquine can protect them from the Chinese Virus in close quarters.
But there are of course stomach viruses and other things that go around on a crowded ship.
I’d take that cruise where you sink a Venezuelan war ship. ;)
The passengers should be denied every life saving drug and procedure.
I’m just trying to speak for a boatload of Freepers.
Ive booked 2 cruises for 2021 - great deals.
You put it in the air handler, so it treast the air as it passes.
I have a small one in my house, to help kill the mold on the ac coils.
You can by them for rooms, i think they have timers, you turn them on and evacuated the room until they are done.
That’s not what happens. I cruise every year.
That is accurate. So much fear mongering.
Am in Hawaii. We are being told we can kiss tourism goodbye until am effective vaccine is discovered. Since that is most of our economy, I have no clue how we’re going to survive.
mewzilla wrote: “If it can be mitigated, why is noro an annual problem?”
You’re absolutely correct. Noro is an annual problem. But not on cruise ships. For example, the CDC reports that: “Each year, on average in the United States, norovirus: causes 19 to 21 million cases of acute gastroenteritis. leads to 1.7 to 1.9 million outpatient visits and 400,000 emergency department visits, primarily in young children.”
IOW, noro is everywhere, not just on cruise ships.
The CDC reports that: “People often associate cruise ships with acute gastrointestinal illnesses such as norovirus, but acute gastrointestinal illness is relatively infrequent on cruise ships.
From 2008 to 2014, 74 million passengers sailed on cruise ships in the Vessel Sanitation Program’s jurisdiction. Only 129,678 passengers met the program’s case definition for acute gastrointestinal illness and only a small proportion of those cases (1 in 10) were part of a norovirus outbreak.”
So, lets play the numbers game. Using CDC numbers:
- there is a 0.00175 chance of getting Noro on a cruise ship
- there is a 0.0645 chance of getting noro at home.
IOW, your 36.9 times as likely to get noro at home versus a cruise ship.
“Noro” is an annual problem? Are you kidding? There are/were 2,500 cruise ships on the ocean at any given time all over the world. Why is it news if one ship has a norovirus outbreak? Does Disney get dinged for any infectious diseases traced to their parks?
The disease outbreak protocols on most cruise ships are far beyond anything you’ll encounter on land. On land if you get sick you usually don’t know where. And if you do will they blare it on the media?
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