Posted on 04/12/2020 9:21:04 AM PDT by Hojczyk
A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus.
Sumaya Owaynat, a phlebotomy technician, said she tests between 400 and 600 patients on an average day in the parking lot at Roseland Community Hospital. Drive-thru testing is from 9 a.m. to noon and 1 to 4 p.m. each day. However, the hospital has a limited number of tests they can give per day.
Owaynat said the number of patients coming through the testing center who appear to have already had coronavirus and gotten over it is far greater than those who currently have the disease.
“A lot of people have high antibodies, which means they had the coronavirus but they don’t have it anymore and their bodies built the antibodies,” Owaynat told Chicago City Wire.
Antibodies in the bloodstream reveal that a person has already had the coronavirus and may be immune to contracting the virus again.
If accurate, this means the spread of the virus may have been underway in the Roseland community - and the state and country as a whole - prior to the issuance of stay at home orders and widespread business closures in mid-March which have crippled the national economy.
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In a statists dream come true world, for sure.
A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus.
Why? You are far more likely to get the truth from “a nobody” who deals with the nitty gritty than that high govt official you have so much faith in.
Agree....let’s use what she’s (this phlebotomist) is using, across the country.
If she can extract this info, why not let her replace the midget, up on the Task Force dais?
Yeah, it doesn’t make sense. It’s also unclear. So they are testing everyone for infection and antibodies, so that some people are both?
Also, they research study done on the German town showed 14%, and that was a town hit harder and earlier than Chicago.
They are also of a subset - those whose blood was taken there (somewhere), and whose results she heard back (from some source).
If you ignore the first, and assume the second is comprehensive and accurate, it is saying that there appears to have been only about twice the number of serum cases at whatever point in time as active cases...some of which might have been active cases.
Does the nasal swab test tell if you have antibodies or only if you currently have it?
They do a blood test outside?
Well, it's Chicago.
If there are 400-600 providers doing the tests, that's only one each per day.
Herd immunity is well on its way. Here in small Roseville CA a wellness center claims they tested 32 people. 3 had the antibodies and all three reported being sick in 2019 not 2020.
And you know what that means..... that we in CA had this run through long before any protective precautions were in place. No run on the hospitals, no dead lining the streets..... The fact of the matter is, we shut everything down for nothing.
And you know what that means..... that we in CA had this run through long before any protective precautions were in place. No run on the hospitals, no dead lining the streets..... The fact of the matter is, we shut everything down for nothing.
And how would you show antibodies if you never came in contact with the virus? Remember all three in this small study were sick in 2019 not 2020.
If this claim is true then these people came in contact long before any preventive measures were in place. No run on hospitals, no body bags lining the streets.
This would also explain CA numbers, or lack thereof. CA ran the course, hopefully before shelter in place slowed the herd immunity curve.
And how would you show antibodies if you never came in contact with the virus? Remember all three in this small study were sick in 2019 not 2020.
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If this claim is true then these people came in contact long before any preventive measures were in place. No run on hospitals, no body bags lining the streets.
I think we would both be astonished at some of the deaths in NY that were attributed to covid.
I believe covid was in CA late November/early December, at leastin the north state. The simple reason the numbers did not jump is because during our run everyone just thought it the flu.
Essentially what I am saying is that during our run no one was going to the hospital at the first sign of anything. Quite the opposite for those places hit AFTER the crazyness had begun.
As if by magic......
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3834474/posts
That said, it is interesting and worth watching, as with the mess on the Iceland reporting.
The simple reason the numbers did not jump is because during our run everyone just thought it the flu.
Essentially what I am saying is that during our run no one was going to the hospital at the first sign of anything. Quite the opposite for those places hit AFTER the crazyness had begun.
It might be possible at first that they could have confused the result with SARS or MERS in some cases, but then they’d have flagged those up to the CDC and would have performed confirmations thereafter - and at the least we would have been reading about a possible SARS or MERS outbreak before they differentiated this disease from those.
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