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Hundreds of bodies are being recovered from New York City homes every day but are NOT included in coronavirus death count even if they had symptoms - as the city increases burials in mass graves on Hart Island
Daily Mail ^ | Published: 10:17 EDT, 10 April 2020 | Updated: 15:18 EDT, 10 April 2020 | Emily Crane

Posted on 04/10/2020 4:46:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: livius

https://towardsdatascience.com/covid-19-excess-mortality-figures-in-italy-d9640f411691


81 posted on 04/10/2020 7:36:42 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Ping

https://towardsdatascience.com/covid-19-excess-mortality-figures-in-italy-d9640f411691


82 posted on 04/10/2020 7:37:18 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Anyone who wants to disprove the claimed numbers can FOIA the 911 call tapes.

Those numbers claimed in the Daily Mail story would not surprise me. NYC is a big, densely populated city, whose mayor told them to go to the bars, go to work, ride the subway. He would want to hide high death toll that would point back at his inaction and dismissal of risks.

Just my opinion. YMMV


83 posted on 04/10/2020 7:42:04 PM PDT by onemiddleamerican
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To: SmokingJoe

I’m from NYC. That’s how.


84 posted on 04/10/2020 9:03:23 PM PDT by romanesq (8Chan & its child porn are kaput & all the crap with it. Trump-Pence 2020! Magacoalition.com)
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To: Zhang Fei

Stop trolling with your propaganda.


85 posted on 04/10/2020 9:03:32 PM PDT by Liberal Anti Venom (In a free society, the last refuge of a moron is tyranny. ~Jeremy Egerer~)
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To: tomkat

“.. bodies hanging in trees and the like”

There were dead snakes hanging in trees...and pangolins


86 posted on 04/10/2020 9:14:37 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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Many dead pangolins.


87 posted on 04/10/2020 9:43:11 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86
A shockingly large surfeit of dead pangolins in amongst the bayous.
88 posted on 04/10/2020 10:07:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Zhang Fei
Deaths from the virus? Or deaths from other causes attributed to the virus? I think deaths from all causes will continue to be lower than normal for the year thanks to more health awareness, less driving, etc. It was lower in March. At some point the virus will cause excess premature death, probably this month, but there will be less death later in the year of the people died a few months premature.

The "deaths from the virus" that comes from the blue states will continue at 2000-2500 for the rest of the month and 1000 a day in May. There will probably 100,000 of those deaths. Every single one that is not an obvious premature death will be celebrated by the media. Just google https://www.google.com/search?q=young+healthy+DJ&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS791US791&oq=young+healthy+DJ&aqs=chrome..69i57.10664j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 and look through the 389,000,000 hits. They are not all stories about the young healthy DJ of course but many are. The man was killed by a rushed intubation. There is no lack of ventilators, the problem is that they are using them on people who are still breathing on their own and blowing out lungs. He walked into the hospital breathing and the ventilator was not needed.

But we have plenty of time before November for the facts to come out and the sane governors to reopen their states for business to show it can be done safely. This virus is approx. 10x more lethal than flu, although we don't know the actual infection rate, so it may be less than that. But thanks to social changes the total deaths will be only a little worse than a bad flu season.

89 posted on 04/11/2020 3:25:45 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Zhang Fei
They don't have the figures for later this year when those premature deaths will be offset by lower mortality than 2019.
90 posted on 04/11/2020 3:28:26 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Grampa Dave

Stupid a##es trying to breathe life into a story that will end soon


91 posted on 04/11/2020 3:39:52 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: tomkat
Perhaps they are folks who don't ordinarily get out and needed care - and the "care workers" opted to not perform...

Like you, there is too much missing from thios tale to be believable...

92 posted on 04/11/2020 5:00:38 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: xrmusn

We seem to be observing the same things.


93 posted on 04/11/2020 6:29:51 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ronnie raygun

Stupid a##es trying to breathe life into a story that will end soon.

Unfortunately, it will be like Trump and Russia/Russia.

My grand kid’s grand kids will hear how dumb and slow Trump was to act.


94 posted on 04/11/2020 7:43:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evolution works! Can not stand the heat! Get off the planet! Gorebull Warming weeding out the weak!)
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To: Zhang Fei

WTF?


95 posted on 04/11/2020 7:48:34 AM PDT by dforest (Just shut up Obama. Maybe everyone should just shut up. Particularly Mutt Romney)
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96 posted on 04/11/2020 9:44:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: tomkat

There are likely hundreds of bodies in NYC homes every day. There is a wellness check squad in every NYC precinct that goes around and collects bodies from apartments. It is common for people to die in their sleep, and people find out because they don’t show up somewhere they normally do. Or they start to smell over time. In a city of 10+ million like New York, it can be a hundred in a day easily.

That being said, the issue is more acute now. People are in their homes more now. And people are not showing up anywhere now. So they may be dead longer now. It would not be easy to figure out how someone died if they are not found for 2 or 3 weeks.

This virus’ fatality rate cannot be just figured just by the number of dead versus last year. We have locked down people. So the car accidents are lower. The stress is higher. Depression and suicide may grow. Alcoholism may grow. But flu may not spread like it did. So there are lots of compounding factors going on. You can’t just say surplus deaths are caused by the virus. You might be able to say that deaths are caused by the virus and the response without figuring out how many are caused by one and not the other.


97 posted on 04/11/2020 10:48:21 AM PDT by poinq
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