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Question for Freepers | April 5, 2020 | me

Posted on 04/05/2020 2:16:53 PM PDT by 4Liberty

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They will argue enhanced subsidies are needed to “prepare for the next big one” – when the situation may not be as relatively drastic as the actual data suggests. Politicians would not necessarily “care” about carefully monitored mortality data, it’s just taxpayers’ money.

I read a comment on another forum (about 10 days ago) suggesting if someone had Cystic Fibrosis, for example, and died after seasonal flu virus complications, the cause of death is normally been listed as “CF” – not the flu. But the cause is potentially being reversed for CoVid cases – now CoVid virus is potentially listed as primary cause of death - not the deceased’s serious underlying medical condition. If this happens, it means we can’t compare apples to apples (i.e. viruses to viruses). Not a fluBro - but I was born in the morning –just not THIS morning. Any information or corrections would be appreciated. Thanks.

1 posted on 04/05/2020 2:16:53 PM PDT by 4Liberty
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To: 4Liberty

Why not in breaking news!


2 posted on 04/05/2020 2:22:44 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: 4Liberty

I am with you, 1000%. I am convinced this is a total hoax. Anything the mainstream media is pushing is totally to get rid of our president. They will never give up


3 posted on 04/05/2020 2:22:50 PM PDT by Factuality (About time)
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To: 4Liberty

I share your concerns as a retired hospital financial analyst. The old games people play routine. Lies, damned lies, and statistics thing. Yet as another freeper on another thread stated: Occam’s Razor stipulates that you do not test the dead when resources are scarce.


4 posted on 04/05/2020 2:24:37 PM PDT by buckalfa (Post no bills.)
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To: 4Liberty; All
Thanks for posting.

In case you haven’t seen this…

Data Manipulation Right Here at Home?

On the other hand, looking good…

US deaths BETTER THAN "Best Case" on April 5

5 posted on 04/05/2020 2:25:00 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: 4Liberty

I find that the most accurate way of assessing the situation is to look at small states. Read the local hometown newspapers, which give detailed information regarding individuals who have died from Covid. Virtually everyone is in their 80s or 90s, and had multiple underlying conditions. By contrast, The media focuses on the 1% of Covid deaths that allegedly involved individuals who had no pre-existing medical conditions. In the small states, many of the dead were individuals in hospice care.


6 posted on 04/05/2020 2:25:09 PM PDT by bort
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To: 4Liberty
I’m concerned about the possible temptation to inflation

And you posted this messation in newsation because of inflation of self-promation.

7 posted on 04/05/2020 2:25:21 PM PDT by humblegunner
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I hope that when this hoax dies off that President Trump will conduct an audit of these hospitals to see if they were cooking their books in the number of infected and deaths


8 posted on 04/05/2020 2:27:28 PM PDT by Factuality (About time)
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To: 4Liberty

Do patients die BECAUSE of covid19 or do they die of other conditions WITH covid19.

If there’s an agenda (and there is), I can with near 100% certainty tell you how things are coded.


9 posted on 04/05/2020 2:29:08 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: 4Liberty

There will undoubtedly be funds squandered, pilfered and mis-applied.

I put that in my basket of things I cannot control, so it’s not worth my time worrying about


10 posted on 04/05/2020 2:31:59 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: humblegunner
Instead of being nasty why don't you tell me where this post belongs? I didn't select "News/Activism" I selected "FReeper Editorial; Your Opinion/Questions" which I thought was correct category. Can you help me to post a general question? Thanks.
11 posted on 04/05/2020 2:42:10 PM PDT by 4Liberty (BERNIE SANDERS: A CRUSTY, ANTI-AMERICAN WEIRDO. - Kurt Schlichter)
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It's a vanity and/or question. Not an article.

Humblegunner already attacked me for posting this - I guess there is no "right" place. Who knows..

12 posted on 04/05/2020 2:45:07 PM PDT by 4Liberty (BERNIE SANDERS: A CRUSTY, ANTI-AMERICAN WEIRDO. - Kurt Schlichter)
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Can you help me to post a general question?

You've just done it, what do you want from me?

Instead of being nasty why don't you tell me where this post belongs?

Instead of name-calling, why don't... oh, skip it.

Try "Chat"... that seems a good fit for general questions.

13 posted on 04/05/2020 2:48:09 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: 4Liberty

Several:

Choose Forum

Bloggers & Personal
General/Chat

Smoky Backroom


14 posted on 04/05/2020 2:49:32 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: buckalfa

Yep. When my late husband and also my 100 year old Mom-in-Law were in the hospital and I was there to sign forms, I could almost see “the wheels turning” in the physician’s head as he checked boxes and made decisions about needed tests and duration-of-stay in ICU in order to satisfy Medicare-claims rules.


15 posted on 04/05/2020 2:49:33 PM PDT by 4Liberty (BERNIE SANDERS: A CRUSTY, ANTI-AMERICAN WEIRDO. - Kurt Schlichter)
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To: Factuality

I am not a panic or hysteria type. I think the reaction to this is way overblown. That said it is not a hoax there are plenty of sick and dying right now. Most people do just fine with this. The ones that do no do not. Just like H1N1 west nile or any of her epidemic I have been in


16 posted on 04/05/2020 2:50:15 PM PDT by Mom MD
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How about keeping the death toll and infection rate up so they can continue to instill fear in the public and prolong the shutdown and the killing of our economy!


17 posted on 04/05/2020 2:51:04 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: 4Liberty
Humblegunner already attacked me

If you think a mild and humorous criticism is an attack, you may be a snowflake. Posting your vanity question as "News" invites criticism.

I'm victimized that you thought otherwise.

18 posted on 04/05/2020 2:56:00 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Mom MD

A friend who had 2 organ transplants was just diagnosed with Covid but was told we do not want you in the hospital.


19 posted on 04/05/2020 2:56:04 PM PDT by lilypad
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To: 4Liberty

Free ventilators! Free masks, gowns, anything you ask for! Free new hospital! Overtime reimbursed! Free free free! Just keep the death numbers up!


20 posted on 04/05/2020 2:57:53 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Unredact the 99 page Collyer Report!!!)
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