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Is the White House's 240,000 virus death toll estimate accurate? Trump advisers and disease experts voice doubt about the terrifying projection
Daily Mail ^ | 04/03/2020 | Rachel Sharp

Posted on 04/03/2020 7:26:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Why is Dr Birx so popular here?

She seems really good at giving straight answers.


21 posted on 04/03/2020 7:49:10 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: rintintin

Because her estimates seem way off. She, Fauci and others told Trump if he didn’t shut the country down millions would die. The virus is horrible, but it doesn’t look like this would have happened. With the coming Great Depression, millions will die.


22 posted on 04/03/2020 8:04:55 PM PDT by RedMominBlueState
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To: madison10

Except for Hockey Stick McGee...


23 posted on 04/03/2020 8:05:26 PM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: Jonty30

I once thought like you but then I look at the WorldOMeter chart od total deaths and if you click on the log link the plot is a very straigt line. It would have to start flattening out soon for the number to be 50,000 total. Today the total is 7,392 up 1,321 from yesterday. No slowing of the geometric rate is apparent yet.

If the plot on the log chart crosses 25,000 then the total will be more than 50,000. The straight line projection has the plot hitting 25,000 in 4 days. I assume half the total on the way up and half on the way down ( normal curve ).

Deaths have to tip over in the next 4 days for 50,000 to be the number.


24 posted on 04/03/2020 8:06:45 PM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: SeekAndFind

Enough of the shenanigans
Wash you hands and go back to work !!!

My son, the Dr, said, only 3 patients this week, one in his 80’s, stage 4 lung cancer, has been on vent ~ they’ll mark it in CV column, cuz Big Brother will pay the bill ....

The other 2, obese/elderly/other complications


25 posted on 04/03/2020 8:09:21 PM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is absolute bullshat!


26 posted on 04/03/2020 8:13:01 PM PDT by VA40
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To: JeanLM

The numbers are shooting up because testing has increased. Hospitals are moving from only testing very obvious symptomatics to whomever wants to be tested,including asymptomatics orminor symptoms because of the greater availability of testing and cheaper methods of testing. It isn’t because it is getting worse by leaps and bounds.


27 posted on 04/03/2020 8:13:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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28 posted on 04/03/2020 8:14:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: SeekAndFind

The number is 93K. Nobody would have let Andrew Cuomo say that if the weren’t pretty certain.


29 posted on 04/03/2020 8:16:09 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: dp0622
My own guess is 49 to 50 thousand.

The further from today's date, the less accurate the following, based on the virus spreading about like it is now.

The US on 5 April will exceed 10,000 dead; 9 April close to 20,000; 15 April close to 50,000 dead. By then hospitals in most major cities will be completely inundated with sick and dying patients.

If the rate of infection doesn't peak on or around 15 April, then the numbers just keep growing.

Again, this is based the virus continuing at its current rate of progression and barring a cure.

30 posted on 04/03/2020 8:17:29 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Are you challenging my scientific experience as a graphic designer??

How dare you??

:)

What you say makes more sense.

I just want it to end.


31 posted on 04/03/2020 8:21:49 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: JeanLM

The numbers on worldometer suggest very much that the increase in America is mostly due to the availability of testing.

Worldwide, the rate of death to cases is about 5%. However, in America, it is about 2.5%. assuming that the rate in America of deaths/real cases is the same as the worldwide average, then the number of serious cases in America is about half of the total cases.


32 posted on 04/03/2020 8:21:55 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: rintintin

“She seems really good at giving straight answers.”

Her talent for bafflegab makes you think she gives straight answers, but she doesn’t — unless she’s parroting numbers and data. If a question requires her to respond with a narrative, her tapdancing will put Mr. Bojangles to shame.


33 posted on 04/03/2020 8:28:41 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ( For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.)
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To: dp0622
My wife and I made a grocery run today, after 1 week at home - just needed to get out the house and pick up a few extra items. Many more people out wearing masks, but still only about 50% were.

It'll slow down when the pain level reaches a point where people take the necessary steps to halt the spread - I figure about the 15th or so.

You're numbers are close, if people would just take this more serious, and take better precautions - but being the crazy, hardheaded Americans we're are, we're not going to change our ways until we get hit upside the head.

Stay safe bro...

:)

34 posted on 04/03/2020 8:31:16 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve heard numbers of 500,000 deaths and higher.


35 posted on 04/03/2020 8:34:41 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: amorphous

We are stubborn!!

But even I am willing to do the april stay in thing to get this thing done with.

You and yours stay safe too.

What bothers me is that with such a huge Italian family, someone in the family will get it.

41 first cousins. 20 aunts and uncles. All the cousins are grown so they have kids and some grandkids.

Statistics re against us


36 posted on 04/03/2020 8:36:19 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: amorphous

So, when do we launch?


37 posted on 04/03/2020 8:37:11 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: SeekAndFind

Here is the bottom line-

No one knows what the numbers are, or what they’re going to be.

We may know in the end, but chances are that people will lie about those numbers too, because that is what people do.


38 posted on 04/03/2020 8:42:59 PM PDT by chris37 (Coronavirus wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: dp0622
Yeah, wow! That's sounds like a large wonderful family alright. Family is what's it's all about. My niece, a 43 yo, has it. At home on the HCQ cocktail after 3 days in the hospital. Sick as a dog, but alive. Her son, a major diabetic who lives with her, is showing no signs at all - that's good as it seems to completely skip some while knocking others for a loop.

Later...

39 posted on 04/03/2020 8:45:02 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Let’s see if our experts are right about the peak and how well the HCQ cocktail is working. Trying to predicting how bad this will be, more than just a handful of days out, is like trying to predict a hurricane’s strength and landfall two weeks out. :)


40 posted on 04/03/2020 8:52:05 PM PDT by amorphous
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