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To: wiley
Clearly, you never commanded. The difference is that, as the Commanding Officer, you are responsible for the lives of the young men and women in your command. You are the one who has to write the letters to the parents/wives of the ones you lose, you are the one that carries the memories of those dead with you for the rest of your life.

We are not at war - and not likely to be any time soon. He did have an extremely communicable disease running rampant aboard and he limited time to deal with it.

He took action, as any genuine Commanding Officer should and when the higher echelons decided to risk his troops, he put them on the skyline for all of us to see.

Good thing for all of us, you never commanded anything.

28 posted on 04/03/2020 4:29:29 PM PDT by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Chainmail
We are not at war - and not likely to be any time soon.

Ummm....maybe we are....maybe we're not.

Too early in the story and we may never really find out.

But one thing's for certain.

The Chicoms know the TR battle group is out of action for now.

64 posted on 04/03/2020 5:07:49 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Chainmail

Looks to me that you got your ‘command ‘ information from watching a lot of B grade movies.

It is obvious from your responses that you have no idea what you are talking about regarding command responsibilities in time of war and in time of peace. If you believe their is difference then you probably belong over at DU and not here.


69 posted on 04/03/2020 5:12:33 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: Chainmail
He took action, as any genuine Commanding Officer should and when the higher echelons decided to risk his troops, he put them on the skyline for all of us to see.

And then he leaked his letter to the media.

79 posted on 04/03/2020 5:24:21 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Chainmail

Chainmail, you need to close your mouth before you embarrass yourself further. Captain of a CVN is a military billet not a political or or social function. This captain would have failed in combat as well. He wet his pants instead of leading. I know you cannot understand.


96 posted on 04/03/2020 6:05:30 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: Chainmail

On active duty I served close enough to my COs to know their responibilities. Served also on staffs of CINCPACFLT abd COMNAVAIRPAC. Was a commissioned officer. Retired as an O-6. I have first hand knowledge of mission readiness and processes to handle degraded mission capability. I also know intimately the concept of following the chain of command

Have intimate knowledge of order of battle. Served as a Reserve CO for units at both staffs I mentioned above.

Rather than assail my person do you have a rational rebuttal to to the points I made? The CO reduced our naval defense capabilities by nearly half on the front lines. He made that decision nearly unilaterally and announced it to the world. He probably would have survived had he not done the later. The letter is a dumb letter but could have been ascribed to the CO’s being an aviator.

I noticed he has aviation wings. In another post I speculated he might be an airdale. They have an occasional tendency to throw caution to the winds. That is often admirable. However as much emotional appeal his actions may have, he took a most important ship out of the order of battle for the Western Pacific and the Indian Ocean. The Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, and ME radicals know this. Sorry, but he could have done the humane thing without telling the world we have one less deployed battle group.

Incidentally, deployed Naval vessels especially carriers and subs function as if at war. That’s part of what makes our Navy so formidable.

Have you any experience in war planning or been involved in making decisions that impact readiness? If so I’ll respect your credentials and accept rational rebuttals.

Stating we are not at war doesn’t fly in the seventh fleet.
It might fly in the third fleet.


99 posted on 04/03/2020 6:08:43 PM PDT by wiley (John 16:33: "In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.")
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