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To: a little elbow grease
Scene from the point of view that 'probably it's going to turn out to be very bad form of flu but which we will eventually, in not to long, be able to control and contain ... HOWEVER that choices have to be made based on a worst rational scenario, and the the REALITY of the situation is that there are long term political (not necessarily just election) consequences regarding how it's dealt with' ...

From THAT point of view, to me, the response seems rational and erring on the side of 'anticipate worst rational case.' For example, if the curve overwhelms the healthcare system in a metropolitan area, the behavior of mankind under those circumstances could result in thing much worse than 'the cure that seems worse than the disease.'

The flubros here WILL be able to look back, most likely and say 'see how right I was' -> which is like being a liberal -> easily pointing out an obvious case and pretending that those who don't go entirely along with their plan that is the result of that outlook are therefore in total disagreement with everything they believe. (if you are against affirmative action, you hate black people ... if you think careful measures are indicated by this outbreak, you are a panicker who is going to destroy the country because you are willing to trade your freedome for a little security blah blah blah like we don't all know and understand what that means. The FluBros are like Liberals. Simplistic and Stupid. (I'm not saying you are a FluBro - not at all.)

But consider this: In PART you think the reaction is overblown, panicky. REALLY? And then you title a post THIS?: "Obvious Destruction of the United States of America."

Who's panicking?

So I don't think you are a FluBro -> but do you see the ... not hypocracy ... but blatant contradiction in how you are seeing things?

YES this reaction is costly. YES it's going to turn out, in HINDSITE, to have been more than was necessary. But we know a lot more today than we did 2 weeks ago, and we will know everything eventually. But these choices had to make partially in the dark and anticipating the worst case.

So my message to you is:

YES all civilizations tend towards the left over time - and require the tree to be watered with blood for freedom to stay strong, or not. That's how it's always been.

Chill out! And be happy Trump's running it and not Obama or Pelosi.

What you're witnessing IS costly. But it's going to be OK, so long as you accept that when dealing with a hoard of mankind, which the US is and so is the world, it's a Sh*tshow. But we are in the least worst country in the world, in good times relative to history, and it's all going to be OK.

It's the FluBros who are panicked. You are not a FluBro -> but you ARE panicked.

19 posted on 03/31/2020 7:20:23 PM PDT by tinyowl
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To: tinyowl

The least worst country...I love it


37 posted on 03/31/2020 7:27:01 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: tinyowl
PS don't mean to sound uncaring ... it's just that rationally, I don't see how, knowing what we know, and that the reality is unfolding over time, there is much of a different way to handle it. I'm pretty sure I have a good grasp of the facts here.

Today, in a state with relatively few cases, I just learned of the first person I know who is currently in critical condition. There will be a lot more.

Managing this is as much a mass psychology mind game as it is physically managing the outbreak itself. I believe given the nature of man, there is no other way to handle it than what Trump is going.

Now if it were a country of just people like me, or just people like us here ... probably such measures as we're seeing wouldn't be required ... we'd just be smart and get through it. But mankind en masse ... are loony. Things would not turn out well without a strong response.

40 posted on 03/31/2020 7:27:52 PM PDT by tinyowl
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To: tinyowl
"What you're witnessing IS costly. But it's going to be OK, so long as you accept that when dealing with a hoard of mankind, which the US is and so is the world, it's a Sh*tshow. But we are in the least worst country in the world, in good times relative to history, and it's all going to be OK."

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Your post was great and appreciated.

(Now the mayor of D.C. wants to put people in jail for going outside.) Ugh....

65 posted on 03/31/2020 7:39:27 PM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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To: tinyowl

Good balanced post!


152 posted on 03/31/2020 9:16:49 PM PDT by caww
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