We will know in 30 days...
In these days of state governors issuing daily decrees purporting to criminalize the exercise of our personal freedoms, ...
In particular note the words "decrees" and "criminalize."
How are my rights violated? Seriously?
I am deprived of the right of assembly, worship, to bear arms, and the non enumerated but recognized right to work.
I love this President and understand what he’s doing. He sure as hell isn’t asking us to rat out our neighbors or “think of those who MAY become ill”
So buck up yourself and let the adults (who aren’t allergic to everything) handle it and live our lives.
I am so awakened, or woke, to see so called conservatives react this way, wanting spring breakers to be arrested for living life, people trying to enjoy this shut down by being outside and mingling with their damn families!
In NJ, it’s harsh and maybe your area isn’t and good for you. But in this state, it’s a clear violation of our Constitutional Rights and once the democrat/socialist/communists are in power we will be paying for it.
I support President Trump 100% and he’s not the one calling for these draconian measures in NJ and Philly. Are you stupid or naive? Do you live somewhere where this is not happening?
Yes, my Constitutional Rights are being violated so you can kiss my ass and shut up while some of us try to fight this.
I am shocked that so many on this site are just nanny state useful idiots.
What exactly are YOU doing? Are you a doctor or nurse or EMT? One of my daughters is a nurse in a well known philly hospital and again you can kiss my royal irish ass.
Some of you people are too stupid.
The heavy handedness of those insisting that everyone deemed non-essential must be quarantined is more concerning than the virus.
Indeed, it sounds like a top ten Twilight Zone episode akin to “The Shelter” or “The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street”.
If nothing else, COVID-19 has been a fascinating case study of the human psyche across the spectrum of reactions. And I say that understanding that we don’t fully know every aspect and nuance of the virus.
Righttackle44,
Unfortunately, the ad hominem attack calling us spoiled brats shows how you use shaming as a way to silence others to get your way instead of building a logical argument in favor of current government actions. I, for one, will not fold in the face of you obvious written shaming.
The entire purpose of the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution was to enshrine individual rights that the collective of individuals (people like you) can not take away especially during times of crisis. Freedom of association, among many others, is one of them. Stay at home “orders” is an executive order by state Governors that takes that freedom away.
By the way, I argue decisions like Jacobson in 1905 was a bad decision and should be relooked in light of modern advances as well as the weighing between individual rights and group rights (or really state rights).
Here is a well written article from the Heritage Foundation that puts many pieces together to include Jacobson and others in light of today’s scenario. It argues, logically, in favor of your position:
https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/commentary/constitutional-guide-emergency-powers
However, while judicial review has agreed that governments in the US (federal, state and local) have the ‘right’ to do what they are doing right now, I personally disagree with these actions due to advances in technology that did not exist in 1905. (I will not expound on those advances here.)
In my opinion, current decisions are akin to Lincoln suspending the writ of habeas corpus during the Civil War and Roosevelt imprisoning Japanese Americans during WWII, both of which are black marks on American history.
I believe future generations will realize that giving government such wide powers during times of temporary crisis eroded the underlying fabric of freedoms enshrined in the US Constitution. It is also why Orwell in his book 1984 had Oceania ‘always at war with Eastasia’ because the ‘emergency’ of war gave the government of Oceania the ‘right’ to curtail all God given rights of the people of Oceania and as we found out, Oceania was not actually at war with Eastasia anymore but Oceania’s government was using propaganda to make people believe they were still at war.
I welcome your response as long as it is not a personal attack.
JoMa
I’m guessing you’re a Texan, right?
I have looked and looked but still haven't found a "Noble Cause" clause in the Constitution/Bill of Rights.
Shove it fear boy. Our rights ARE being trampled. Businesses closing because some arbitrary “order” by a mayor shuts them down as bureaucrats decide what is “essential”.
States banning you from taking a pet to a vet unless it’s an “emergency”. Who decides that? Cops arresting people for having a funeral. Can buy liquor but can’t get a haircut? What next, a “card” you show to a cop so you can drive? Appointments for grocery buying?
You panic over the flu and tell us constitutionist to calm down?
KMA