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To: RummyChick; econjack
I read that in this country alone there are 300x as many CPAPs as ventilators --- maybe more, these were old figures --- and a lot of them are sitting, seldom or never-used, on people's night tables.

And that they can be rather handily calibrated up to help patients who need "moderate" breathing support, freeing up significant numbers of ventilators to be used by those who have the most critical need.

Now if I know that, wouldn't you think every pulmonologist in the country knows that?

I could get positively optimistic --- if clinicians could make best use of what's at hand.

And then there's 3D printed medical devices, right? Surely people have it underway already.

7 posted on 03/25/2020 7:28:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God in His angels and in His saints.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The governor of Nevada will outlaw them.


9 posted on 03/25/2020 7:31:04 AM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Agree. Now to PP, expapant mothers are prepping for home births, even in the 1800 midwives where used, studied under a already practicing one. Good and bad ones, the good ones where in high demand by the wealthy, Or had a neighbor who had already had children. It is not as easy as TV makes it seem. ALL 5 of my aunts and both uncles were born via midwives. All have passed as they were in their 80-90’s. 1 uncle died of moonshine poisoning, the other of a ruptured heart in his late 70’s.

Turn all PP clinics into BIRTHING CENTERS with a MIDWIFE’S, we still have them, 1 DOCTOR OB/GYN ON CALL. Move incubators, issoletes over to them. Have place sterilized first..fund for 2 months till this Coronavirus dies down. WOMEN ARE AFRAID TO GIVE BIRTH IN A HOSPITAL NOW.


23 posted on 03/25/2020 10:14:32 AM PDT by GailA (I'm a Trump Girl)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

A CPAP or APAP can push air into lungs but it doesn’t help to exhale. In fact it can make that more difficult due to the constant pressure it creates. A ventilator as I understand helps with inhaling and exhaling.

Some CPAPs have a feature that relieves the pressure some when users exhale, but that relief is not complete, it only lessens the the pressure by 1 to 3 cmH2O. So with this feature if someone needed 15 cmH20 of pressure the relief at maximum would be 12 cmH20. Even if the pressure could be taken to 0 that would still not help with exhaling.

All this isn’t to say that some of the components of the APAP and CPAPs couldn’t be used to come up with something for those that need just a little help. I hope Philips and Resmed, the big CPAP companies, are looking into this.


24 posted on 03/25/2020 10:24:14 AM PDT by chickenlips
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If these people need a Vent...a CPAP isn’t going to help.


30 posted on 03/25/2020 10:50:23 AM PDT by Osage Orange (uee)
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