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WHO Launches Global Megatrial of the Four Most Promising Coronavirus Treatments
Science ^ | Mar. 22, 2020 | Kai Kupferschmidt, Jon Cohen

Posted on 03/23/2020 2:22:50 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: thinden

Anyone know why an antibiotic is included?

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Results from french protocol using combo cocktail of hydrochloroquine + zpac azithromycn show 100% effective after 6 days

iirc: bayer is sending US 5mm doses of their chloroquine product & Isreal has offered 3mm doses of their product

Even Dr Oz is touting credible results of actual sucess on fox & friends this am

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PS: big pharma, WHO, DNC, MSM, UN, DS, never trump & Rinos in PANIC


21 posted on 03/23/2020 4:22:07 AM PDT by thinden (How many Barr haters across America are being paid by Soros to attack Barr.)
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To: nickcarraway
For those who don't want to plough through all that, the Four Most Promising Coronavirus Treatments are:

remdesivir, an experimental antiviral compound

chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, anti-malaria medications

lopinavir and ritonavir, HIV drugs used in combination

lopinavir and ritonavir plus interferon-beta, an immune system messenger that can help cripple viruses


22 posted on 03/23/2020 4:27:10 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Curse of intelligence: Having to watch the morons try everything you know won't work!)
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To: 9YearLurker

[China is and has been keeping real information from us for months now.

Are you playing apologist for them here again today.]


Saying they’re fraudsters and that the research might be no good is not an excuse. It’s a cynical comment about the pointlessness of bothering to read any Chinese research at all. It’s like hiring a guy to do work on your house unsupervised. Would you hire a known crook who does shoddy work, such that you have to pull everything apart at the end to see if he shortchanged you on process or materials?

The data itself doesn’t tell us much. We still have to replicate their research. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could get data from people that we trust such that we can take their results at face value instead of doing the same thing over? Taking their results at face value is exactly what we can’t do with the Chinese data.


23 posted on 03/23/2020 4:33:12 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“All in all, more than 20 COVID-19 studies in China used chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine, WHO notes, but their results have been hard to come by. “WHO is engaging with Chinese colleagues at the mission in Geneva and have received assurances of improved collaboration; however, no data has been shared regarding the chloroquine studies.””

That is pure suppression of the data by the CCP.

Unfortunately WHO has been compromised by the Chinese as well. We need to expand our use of chloroquine from the most serious to less serious as the data of our own results is corrected. While massively cranking up domestic production of the drug.

And sure, Gilead’s drug needs expanded study too.


24 posted on 03/23/2020 4:37:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

[That is pure suppression of the data by the CCP.]


I think we can trust the French study. The Chinese study - who knows? And Korea’s pretty bad as well. While the stem cell thing was well publicized, they’ve been up to other shenanigans as well:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-korea-cloning/south-korea-stem-cell-scientist-guilty-of-fraud-idUSTRE59P0QF20091026
https://www.enago.com/academy/korean-research-fraud-kids-listed-as-co-authors-in-research-papers/


25 posted on 03/23/2020 4:45:52 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

As the article states, and I quoted in my previous post to you:

CHINA (and that would be the CCP) IS SUPPRESSING THE RESULTS OF MULTIPLE STUDIES THEY HAVE DONE ON CHLOROQUINE.


26 posted on 03/23/2020 4:49:05 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nickcarraway

WHO is not a friend of the USA. Forget about, and f***, WHO. We can handle our own healthcare.


27 posted on 03/23/2020 4:57:33 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." 2 Ti)
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To: 9YearLurker

How do you derive that nonsensical comment from his post?


28 posted on 03/23/2020 5:19:41 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Who is only going to share with countries that “join”


29 posted on 03/23/2020 5:31:48 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: nickcarraway

WHO is a sock puppet for the ChiComm murderers.


30 posted on 03/23/2020 6:40:17 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m suspecting there will be people who will try to delay and sabotage the trials, so as to continue the destruction of Western economies.

The US should do a bunch of our own trials, independently of WHO or the CDC.


31 posted on 03/23/2020 6:43:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: nickcarraway
WHO knew back in late December that these drugs worked and hid that fact from the rest of the world.

WHY?!

32 posted on 03/23/2020 6:44:51 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: mewzilla
"Anyone know why an antibiotic is included?"

To fight pneumonia.?? (I'm not a doctor, I only play one when the wife is hear to listen).

33 posted on 03/23/2020 7:01:24 AM PDT by unread (A REPUBLIC..! if you can keep it....)
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To: nickcarraway

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152?s=19

They still have this tweet up.


34 posted on 03/23/2020 7:06:00 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: unread
"when the wife is hear to listen"

If it bothers you real bad, what I really meant to say was "near." (maybe)

35 posted on 03/23/2020 7:09:48 AM PDT by unread (A REPUBLIC..! if you can keep it....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But they have so much credibility after telling us it wasn’t contagious!

I wouldn’t trust them to tie my shoes either, but we need to keep them around to hold “One World Government” up to ridicule.


36 posted on 03/23/2020 7:34:16 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: mewzilla

Azithromycin has a novel action against RNA replication; and, also acts against at least two promoters of inflammation within the lungs.


37 posted on 03/23/2020 9:10:07 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: nickcarraway
re the French trial: But it was not a randomized controlled trial and it didn’t report clinical outcomes such as deaths

Were there any deaths? It seems to me they all got better. Maybe when their time comes in a few decades, they'll die, and those deaths will finally be reported. In the meantime, shouldn't they approach that treatment with optimism? The buearocrats seem dead-set against it no matter what. Some twitter doctors say you can mess up your heart rhythm (QT). That can happen with a number of common drugs ... doesn't the medical community have a way to deal with that if it happens?

re the two antiviral combo: The first trial with COVD-19 was not encouraging, however. Doctors in Wuhan, China, gave 199 patients two pills of lopinavir/ritonavir twice a day plus standard care, or standard care alone. There was no significant difference between the groups, they reported in NEJM on 15 March

Yet with the Chinese study with two viral treatments in combination the doctors concluded it was ineffective ... WHO says we need to try again 'cause it may not have been done right the first time. Kind of like socialism.

38 posted on 03/23/2020 9:53:40 AM PDT by Tellurian (DeMullahkRats would smugly tell even God "you didn't build that".)
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To: Yardstick

Hydrochloroquine is inexpensive and is ready to go right now. Remdesivir is relatively new and seems to be proprietary to Gilead. I’m guessing remdesivir would need more trials and testing before it could be used widespread. In other words, if it were to become the chosen solution to the exclusion of hydrochloroquine, it seems possible the crisis could be extended.

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39 posted on 03/23/2020 10:56:37 AM PDT by thinden (How many Barr haters across America are being paid by Soros to attack Barr.)
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