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Here’s How COVID-19 Compares to Past Outbreaks -- Spanish Flu, Seasonal Flu, SARS, H1N1 and Ebola
Healthline ^ | 03/12/2020

Posted on 03/21/2020 5:37:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I think I had it mid-February. Fever, chills, achy body. No coughing. Was back to normal in less than 24 hours.


21 posted on 03/21/2020 7:35:56 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around. God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The vast majority will gain immunity from mild cases before a vaccine ever hits the market


22 posted on 03/21/2020 7:36:51 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: DennisR

I had to take my husband to the ER at the end of Jan.He developed a cough that got progressively worse . He could not get his breath . I packed him up and took him to the ER right then. The tested for the flu and it came back negative. The did an exray and he had to have breathing because his oxygen level had dropped. The xray came back showing a spot on his lungs which the said looked like pneumonia. The doctor said whatever he had was viral.The sent him home wit a spack a Ventolin inhaler and some pills for helping suppress the cough. The next few nights we bad . The cough was so bad that we put him in the shower wit steam so he could get his breath. It was three weeks before he was over it and the whole family got it as well.


23 posted on 03/21/2020 7:50:22 PM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010 and Mom 4-20-26 12-8-2012)
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To: tapatio

Do you think it was Covid-19???


24 posted on 03/21/2020 8:09:25 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around. God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark bump


25 posted on 03/21/2020 8:15:04 PM PDT by nralife (Proud Boomer Rube)
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To: matt04

“I suspect that the virus has been around since Dec/Jan in the US and an unknown of people have already gotten it over the Winter and assumed it was bad cold or mild flu and treated it as such.”

That’s what I’m thinking too. I was hospitalized in late Jan. with a ‘mystery influenza A’ virus. But its symptoms closely match COVID-19, not influenza. They didn’t have test kits at the time to confirm it. They treated the symptoms from day 1. I hope it was COVID so I have immunity.


26 posted on 03/21/2020 8:20:39 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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In this thread: a bunch of anecdotes about people getting maladies in the winter.

Counting raindrops.


27 posted on 03/21/2020 8:26:44 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Fireone

I had a annoying cough for 3-4 days and felt tired, but no other symptoms in early January. It went away withing 7-10 days with additional rest. I attributed it to being outside in the cold more than usual in late December.


28 posted on 03/21/2020 8:30:45 PM PDT by matt04
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To: SeekAndFind
Is there a site that shows how fast the h1n1 or other flues spreads and deaths at peak time? Maybe weekly numbers to compare what we’re seeing now. I that assume the panic is the fast speed of the virus and because it’s so contagious. It feels like there’s something they’re not telling us.
29 posted on 03/21/2020 8:34:11 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: ealgeone
"This begs the question.....what is driving this?? "

I am assuming that your question refers to the hyper sensationalism by the MSM, you have to consider that it's all about Impeachment Part II.

30 posted on 03/21/2020 8:34:34 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Thank God our country now has a GREAT AMERICAN President !!!)
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To: Linda Frances; familyop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4no04822NQ&feature=youtu.be

Above is a youtube link that has an animation of charts comparing Covid-19 with the other major dieseses since 2000. The charts show total deaths, and then later it looks at it by death rate.

The gist of it is - the Swine flu (H1N1) was pretty bad. Covid-19 at this stage of the game is way ahead of where the Swine flu was. I forget the exact numbers, but the number of deaths at day 78 for Covid-19 (a few days ago now) - it took the Swine flu 140 days to reach.

IF (a big if?) the trend continues, Covid-19 will have more deaths by March 23rd than H1N1 did in total (which lasted a year and a half?).


31 posted on 03/21/2020 8:57:23 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve; Linda Frances; familyop

My apologies - I was wrong in saying that the TOTAL deaths would be greater than H1N1 in just a few days. It was the second set of charts - the death rate. IF trends continue - Covid-19 deaths will be increasing faster than H1N1 ever did.

Sorry about that.


32 posted on 03/21/2020 9:07:36 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The bubonic plague killed 27,000,000 people.
Now THAT was a killer.

There obviously were people who either DIDN'T get it or survived it.
It will be the same with this coronavirus.

33 posted on 03/21/2020 9:42:46 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: 21twelve

Amazing, how it appears to be spreading so slowly at first before expanding very quickly.

As for the obvious public concealment of the severity and deadliness of the disease, I guess it’s human nature for politicians and administrators to fear the possible economic and social consequences of public knowledge of the symptoms and damage. Then they realize what the epidemic itself could do, if most people are eventually surprised by those effects.

It also appears that many people are more afraid of thinking about it than risking infection. Could that have something to do with IQ or more likely emotional fragility?


34 posted on 03/21/2020 9:42:49 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

It SEEMS to be spreading more quickly however we are testing MORE so more cases, I believe that this has been in our country from Dec. and MANY have recovered already elderly that passed thought it was complications from the flu!! People who recovered also thought they had the flu!!!


35 posted on 03/21/2020 9:45:31 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: SeekAndFind

So basically its not that bad but we are going to shutdown the country over it.


36 posted on 03/21/2020 10:29:00 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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no-one should repeat the 3.4% figure. it is rubbish.
besides, no-one...repeat no-one - knows anything definite, because, as yet, there is no reliable data. period.

17 Mar: StatNews: A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data
By John P.A. Ioannidis
(John P.A. Ioannidis is professor of medicine, of epidemiology and population health, of biomedical data science, and of statistics at Stanford University and co-director of Stanford’s Meta-Research Innovation Center)
The data collected so far on how many people are infected and how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable…
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

18 Mar: StatNews: We know enough now to act decisively against Covid-19. Social distancing is a good place to start
By Marc Lipsitch
(Marc Lipsitch, D.Phil., is professor of epidemiology at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and director of Harvard’s Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics)
In a recent and controversial First Opinion, epidemiologist and statistician John Ioannidis argues that we lack good data on many aspects of the Covid-19 epidemic, and seems to suggest that we should not take drastic actions to curtail the spread of the virus until the data are more certain.

He is absolutely right on the first point…
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/we-know-enough-now-to-act-decisively-against-covid-19/

we lack more than just “good data”. we lack any reliable data, so Lipsitch - who scaremongered the 70% of the world population would get infected - was/is juat guessing.


37 posted on 03/22/2020 12:27:37 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: xenia

If you are female and I assume you are by your nick

I salute you for your logic and calm

Well done


38 posted on 03/22/2020 12:33:48 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: DennisR

Or it might have been just the flu. The problem is the symptoms are very similar and nearly 30 million on average, 1 in 10 Americans have the flu. You can only know if it’s CoVid-19 by actual testing.


39 posted on 03/22/2020 3:21:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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