Posted on 03/21/2020 9:30:24 AM PDT by BraveMan
Rattlesnake antivenin isn’t 100% “safe”. There are potential side effects. Especially the older stuff made using horses. There is always a chance you’ll get an allergic reaction and die from the treatment. But...
If you get bitten by a rattlesnake, are you going to refuse the antivenin?
I heard somewhere that hydroxychloroquine had fewer side effects than mere chloroquine.
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Yes, that’s true. And hydroxychloroquine has been around and in aooroved use for a long time (since the 1950s?).
True that- there are many variables too- drugs need to be tested on particular cases too- like noone knows how the drug will work with this virus yet- likely it will be fine- but the virus ‘could’ cause a breakdown in a person’s system that would make the drug dangerous- again, it likely won’t- but there is a possibility because it hasn’t been tested with this virus yet-
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Actually it has been tested in multiple clinical trials against this virus. They were just small trials so far.
Not sure if this qualifys for the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list; your call . . .
FYI,
First trial is open.
Objective: To test if post-exposure prophylaxis with hydroxychloroquine can prevent progression development of symptomatic COVID19 disease after known exposure to the SARS-CoV2 virus.
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The mainstream media is going to be SO PISSED when these tests confirm that “FALSE HOPE TRUMP” was ACTUALLY RIGHT to have his “hope”. Trump’s hope is rationally based upon prior medical findings,
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Transcript of part of Dr. William Grace, (Lenox Hill Oncologist, New York) interview with Laura Ingraham on Fox News talking about using chloroquine to treat COVID-19
“Everybody is using it now off-label. We have a surge of coronavirus 19 patients throughout the metropolitan area of New York. And the problem is these patients are coming in quite sick and when they get to a very difficult respiratory status, doctors are using hydroxychloroquine with or without a drug called zithromax or azithromicin, and that’s showing tremendous activity. And we have not had a death in our hospital. We have probably close to 100 patients and not had any deaths. But I’ve talked to many of my colleagues at other hospitals in New York and they also are using hydroxychloroquine although the supplies are running down, so any kind of supplements to those supplies will be much appreciated. . . in the trenches we’re all using it, especially for desperately ill people . . . we think it works in two ways, as you know the death rate goes up as the age goes up, and what I think is the more mature your immune response is, the more likely you are to have a cytokine storm, which means that people with viral pneumonias die because their lungs fill up with fluids largely from an immune response, and this drug works not only inhibiting virus replication, but also inhibits the immune response so you don’t get the tremendous amount of inflammation. That’s why the drug is also used in rheumatoid arthritis and lupus”
As a child, my mother gave me quinine to suppress the very high fever that accompanies malaria. All I knew that it was produced from a treebark. I remember that it was a tiny, white, sugar-coated pill. WE were warned not to crush the pill. I understood that quinine is so bitter that crushing the pill can cause the patient to throw up for hours. My mother always gave the pill with a glass of water and warned me not to chew on it.
It brought the fever down every time.
yup unfortunately that is what will happen-
Yep- it’s pretty bitter- We drink tonic water for cramps in feet and legs with Q in it, and it is a bit bitter even at small amount-
Great. I’m allergic as can be to Plaquenil. Get hives all over, palms of hands, bottom of feet, including inside mouth and other um, just say places.
Yes, that’s true- but the need for testing comes in when it’s being used for something that it wasn’t approved for- like this new virus- because we don’t know how it will interact with the effects of the virus- for instance, a perfectly safe drug for people with say arthritis, might be deadly for someone with a virus that has high fever with it- or with a severely diminished breathing capability due to the virus- these things have to be tested when new drugs are tried for something they weren’t approved for- which is why it takes so long to get approval usually- hopefully though they can speed this up for an pandemic—
They know quinine is ‘mostly safe’ and has a pretty good long track record, but they do know there are some potential severe side effects- which could be made worse by something like a virus-
As kids we used to dare each other to lick a quinine tablet. I never did.
lol- we dared the others to lick an electric fence- tip- don’t do it!
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